The stun rates of the old heroes should not change with addition of new ones. They have definitely changed. This is BS and needs to be fixed. I should not have waste my stamina trying to get a stunner I already have and have leveled up with blue stars and cards.
Take into account that many have Cianna and Shayd leveled up with cards and blue stars. These new heroes are rubbish replacements. I want the same stunner I had before. There is no question that Cianna and Shayd stun at least 90% less. I see it in the boss fights and in heroic relms. I'm loosing reputations. Oh $#!+ I forgot I cant even see how many reps I'm getting anymore. Sorry liked the old game better.
Originally Posted by Mmerri007_8923928
Go play the royal arena and use the new heroes.
Get over your cianna and shayd fixation.
Use the transfer button to move your stars and saints.
New heroes are rubbish? Have you seen Bryn stun? No I don't think you have.
Learn the game before you complain.
I don't really disagree with you Herb, however, for those of us that don't have sufficient power to gain Bryn (or the luck to pull her out of a chest) having Shayd's stun become almost worthless in reliability and Cianna not far behind is making it massively more difficult to advance equipment. Substituting in Thucydides in for someone like Rhize or Admantine isn't very viable for boss fights either, where you need to clear multiple minions as fast as possible. With all the new stunners, upping Baal/Cerebus resistance to stun would perfectly acceptable. Making Shayd rarely hit and almost never stun is going too far for regular bosses however. And frankly, before full lightbringer sets, Cianna isn't all that great even if a boss is positioned for her to hit it. Now she is not even worth using.
Shayd seems to me very similar to what she was before, if not changed at all. Cianna seems to have dropped from 50% stuns to 33%.
But as for needing them, this is a screenshot vs Pursuer elite in HR. Now pre patch people were getting to 55-60mil+ power and relying on shayd/cianna stuns for a kill. This is a killshot where I only lost bloodstorm and had shayd as a backup but i didnt need her anyways. So only using cianna to stun 2-3 times on a minion behind the boss. The other 2 spots belonged to new PURPLE heroes.
Thank you Rumbleguts.
For the starter - mid level player, there are a multitude of great heroes which can be recruited from the royal arena.
Ahmose, Queen Pen, Flavius, Thucy are all very formidable and versatile heroes to fight heroic and quest bosses.
Players just really need to understand the tactics and strategy present in the game, and try to actually recruit and experiment with those heroes.
The mentality that "no saints, no stars = weak" is too prevalent in the community nowadays. This needs to change, so that players will be able to try out new things.
The call to have new heroes and skills has been repeated over the past months. Now that what the players asked for is here, they should be thankful and use the new heroes extensively before judging.
Last edited by Herby; 12-11-2013 at 11:12 AM.
I sense a vampire somewhere there.
Very nice combo.
Thats a pretty good assessment, Cianna doesnt stun first shot out of the gate or nearly as much anymore as well, I find myself not using cianna that much and using the Morale mag "alot" got to love skill attack every round, if you have full sets of LB that is.Shayd seems to me very similar to what she was before, if not changed at all. Cianna seems to have dropped from 50% stuns to 33%.
Last edited by hjam_8879649; 12-11-2013 at 11:21 AM.
forget shayd's stun rate, I wish she can hit her target. I mean, She's a freaking Gold card.
"Relinquish your pain unto me"
As a fairly weak player (3m power), I find that the new heroes are helpful in HR and quest. I'm still changing heroes and runes and formation frequently. But I feel that until I can beat Herja and recruit her, my potential for growth in server/realm PvP is limited. I've hit a wall between lower players and higher players in arena. It's quite sad, actually. Not one player in the top rankings of my server uses any new heroes. They stick to some Bloodstorm/Adam/Cianna formation. (For reference, top player is at 33m, but of course power is not an accurate representation of that player's strength.) With the transfer option, it's even easier to make changes to include new heroes. But for now it's still a brute force strategy server-wide, basically pre-patch as far as I can tell. And I feel at a loss for WB because my only method of morale manipulation is Calvin, and he only gets one skill attack, and i have yet to receive a Righteousness rune to get any more skill attacks in, and of course stunners don't stun well, but hey- at least I know HOW to do things, which is more than I can say for my servermates. I bet top players on other servers are having a blast trying new things out, but for me as a weakling I feel a little left out. For now all I can do is keep grinding on in the usual blacksmith, equipment (finally on to gaurdian woohooo), and rune temple until I can beat some more peoples.
And, btw, I'm broke from santa thorsday. I spent like 50m gold just on blacksmithing, so I have to spend even moar time saving up resources. It feels like it will take around a month to get to a good point all around, and unlike other players who complain but don't try new things, I Have Tried New Things and it will still take a little while.
In fact, I'd like to have some advice for what a lower power player can do to create a more dynamic gameplay. Advice, anyone?
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