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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    I thought I read somewhere that someone submit a ticket and they replied it wasn't a bug.

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    Yup. I sent a complaint about Maria dealing damage to Khan, and said that the cause was either a bug with Khan going over 100% health or a bug with Maria working WITH Khan's over-healing, and they said the problem was with Maria.

    EDIT: So this is a very sad change for me . Oh well, glad I didn't invest too much into Khan. I will re-think his place on my PvP team (although for labs he is still king, I think).
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    once they release the new maps and people get sirius gear khan will be worse than queen P in every way then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    I believe his lack of morale drain compensates for that.

    As it is, Queen P needs Herja to get her back to full morale every round.
    Are you on drugs or something? By the time anyone can beat Khan in the royal arena, they already have full LB sets and herja so full moral every round is a very minor benefit. Mean while double the hp regain is huge. On top of the fact that you can get 4 Pent cards for what 1 of Khan's costs and still have spirits left over. The stars are also more expensive. And if all that wasn't enough Pent gets a 10% magic damage reduction.

    Just looking at the CW battles should tell you how much that half life gain kills khan's usefulness. Anyone who makes the finals is powerful enough to recruit him. Yet last CW 13 people that I was able to watch used Pent where only 3 used Kahn. And 2 of those 3 used Pent too. So only 1 of the all the top tier players from all servers choose Khan over Pent where 10 picked Pent over Khan. And that 1 who choose Kahn player got knocked out first or second round of day 1. Overpowered? Hardly. Not even powerful enough to be used over a hero 14 places lower in RC and 464mil lower in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z20k_6130240 View Post
    Are you on drugs or something? By the time anyone can beat Khan in the royal arena, they already have full LB sets and herja so full moral every round is a very minor benefit. Mean while double the hp regain is huge. On top of the fact that you can get 4 Pent cards for what 1 of Khan's costs and still have spirits left over. The stars are also more expensive. And if all that wasn't enough Pent gets a 10% magic damage reduction.

    Just looking at the CW battles should tell you how much that half life gain kills khan's usefulness. Anyone who makes the finals is powerful enough to recruit him. Yet last CW 13 people that I was able to watch used Pent where only 3 used Kahn. And 2 of those 3 used Pent too. So only 1 of the all the top tier players from all servers choose Khan over Pent where 10 picked Pent over Khan. And that 1 who choose Kahn player got knocked out first or second round of day 1. Overpowered? Hardly. Not even powerful enough to be used over a hero 14 places lower in RC and 464mil lower in power.
    Queen P can easily be neutralized by Flavius. Not Khan.

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    I get my Khan soon .... I hope that they tweek him so that he is more powerful than Queen P. I don't use her or Herja- I do not want to use either one of those heroes (I have my reasons)- So I have waited patiently for the time that I can get Khan AND DARN IT - I want him to be wicked!

    Queen P is one of those overpowered purples... I don't mind that. But I have been thinking lately since We have these purple heroes floating around now that make such a heavy impact during a fight could we please bring Cianna back to her glorious self?

    Also, The "favorite" purple heroes cost more than the average 500 spirits which is fine, I guess. Except for Flavius. 950 spirits while Dawn is 800 spirits... How does that make sense? So, yeah.... Flave needs to be dropped in price because that's kind of a bummer - He's way too expensive.

    Okay, almost done with my random whining but one last thing:
    I am picky with my heroes. I use only those I like... I don't care how strong they are- if they don't "vibe" with my crew then they don't get in. I was really excited to get Queen B... She was a disappointment. Khan is next up for me and he will be mine soon- Been waiting for him for awhile. Haven't considered any of the heroes between Queen B and Khan, so... What I am saying is... WHY ARE THE HEROES THAT I LOVE JINXED!?!?!

    Flavius - Expensive as hell
    (While Queen P is 300 spirits cheaper and much more useful in game)

    Queen B - Completely unreliable and barely noticeable damage!
    Gave her a full set of awesome gear as soon as she join the crew - including her very on Reliability - it didn't help, of course.

    G Khan - Currently Unknown
    Just hoping he will be awesome with what I have planned for him
    (~Please, please, please let what they say be wrong and you are as awesome as I have hoped~)


    hehe - That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ts.long_3246860 View Post
    I get my Khan soon .... I hope that they tweek him so that he is more powerful than Queen P. I don't use her or Herja- I do not want to use either one of those heroes (I have my reasons)- So I have waited patiently for the time that I can get Khan AND DARN IT - I want him to be wicked!

    Queen P is one of those overpowered purples... I don't mind that. But I have been thinking lately since We have these purple heroes floating around now that make such a heavy impact during a fight could we please bring Cianna back to her glorious self?

    Also, The "favorite" purple heroes cost more than the average 500 spirits which is fine, I guess. Except for Flavius. 950 spirits while Dawn is 800 spirits... How does that make sense? So, yeah.... Flave needs to be dropped in price because that's kind of a bummer - He's way too expensive.

    Okay, almost done with my random whining but one last thing:
    I am picky with my heroes. I use only those I like... I don't care how strong they are- if they don't "vibe" with my crew then they don't get in. I was really excited to get Queen B... She was a disappointment. Khan is next up for me and he will be mine soon- Been waiting for him for awhile. Haven't considered any of the heroes between Queen B and Khan, so... What I am saying is... WHY ARE THE HEROES THAT I LOVE JINXED!?!?!

    Flavius - Expensive as hell
    (While Queen P is 300 spirits cheaper and much more useful in game)

    Queen B - Completely unreliable and barely noticeable damage!
    Gave her a full set of awesome gear as soon as she join the crew - including her very on Reliability - it didn't help, of course.

    G Khan - Currently Unknown
    Just hoping he will be awesome with what I have planned for him
    (~Please, please, please let what they say be wrong and you are as awesome as I have hoped~)


    hehe - That is all.
    Good luck with your Kahn Secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z20k_6130240 View Post
    Are you on drugs or something? By the time anyone can beat Khan in the royal arena, they already have full LB sets and herja so full moral every round is a very minor benefit. Mean while double the hp regain is huge. On top of the fact that you can get 4 Pent cards for what 1 of Khan's costs and still have spirits left over. The stars are also more expensive. And if all that wasn't enough Pent gets a 10% magic damage reduction.

    Just looking at the CW battles should tell you how much that half life gain kills khan's usefulness. Anyone who makes the finals is powerful enough to recruit him. Yet last CW 13 people that I was able to watch used Pent where only 3 used Kahn. And 2 of those 3 used Pent too. So only 1 of the all the top tier players from all servers choose Khan over Pent where 10 picked Pent over Khan. And that 1 who choose Kahn player got knocked out first or second round of day 1. Overpowered? Hardly. Not even powerful enough to be used over a hero 14 places lower in RC and 464mil lower in power.
    not one uses pent in the quarter finals and up, because they knocked out all the ones that did use her. there is more to it than just the HP leech. when khan crits he is deadly. you say she adds 10% magic resist (i'd prefer +30 crit from khan anytime) and i say she needs it badly because when you look at the other base stats:

    base stats pent - khan
    com 75 - 85
    str 75 - 85
    int 55 - 80

    HP 550 - 650
    p.attk 935 - 2456
    s.attk 515 - 1350
    p.def 312 - 819
    s.def 561 - 1473
    m.def 234 - 614

    khan is anti flavi, pro crit, good tank with ability to heal himself and instead of having to use herja you can put another DD into the group. of course i would love if he had more HP leech but for that he doesnt die as fast as pent and does more damage.


    edit: dont forget the difference on sanctifications you can additionally gain when use of a gold hero compared to a purple.
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 05-24-2014 at 06:18 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ts.long_3246860 View Post
    [...]Queen P is one of those overpowered purples... [...]
    Flavius - Expensive as hell
    (While Queen P is 300 spirits cheaper and much more useful in game)

    Queen B - Completely unreliable and barely noticeable damage!
    Gave her a full set of awesome gear as soon as she join the crew - including her very on Reliability - it didn't help, of course.
    [...]
    so what now? she usefull, overpowered or useless? lol
    maybe make up your mind first before posting next time.

    flavi is actually a great asset to many forms not useless. yes he is one of the more expensive toons and dawn is cheaper. but look at the range of costs: purple is 500-1000 spirits and gold is 800-3000. now after you got yourself calmed down a little you have to start looking at the advantages there is in this: you can make any of your 500 spirit purples into archangel 5 and then transfer onto flavi and just think about how many spirits you end up saving.
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    I didn't say that Flave was useless...
    I like Flave - I got him on previous server, when heroes first released, at first shot and he was great. So on newer server was excited to get him. I just think that he is too expensive. I don't believe that a purple should cost more than a gold... He is the most expensive purple hero by far.... I just think that needs to be reconsidered is all.

    And, also, sorry for the confusion --- Queen B versus Queen P. That's where I think I lost you. I actually am not upset was just writing from that "mood point" - I think, I meant everything that I said. (hehe) Again, though, apologies for the confusion I am a ditzy chick from California and sometimes my wordage is funky.


    Edited to add
    *** Just checked and Gen Dje and Herja are on the higher end as well ... did not know that- have never checked their prices. Anyhoo- purpls should be cheaper than golds and I sure don't want them to increase Dawn price so let's lower the others Before Hero patch, All pruples were 500 .... While Golds varied in price .... Let's go back to that.
    P.S. This will not benefit me in anyway since I am done with giving attention to purples - Just a thought for future and newer servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ts.long_3246860 View Post
    I didn't say that Flave was useless...
    neither have i, but you said he is too expensive for what he does and pent is more usefull and cheaper. but i disagree and think that flavi is more usefull than pent, can be used in pvp opposed to pent
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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