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Thread: Heroes-The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

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    Heroes-The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

    With the release of the brand new update and heroes, I'm seeing a lot of mixed reviews of the various new heroes and individual threads on each one. In this dicussion I thought we could compare each to allow the community as a whole can see which heroes are worth sanctifying and starring....and those that aren't.

    The Good

    Those heroes that are (imho) essential

    Cianna~Hits the opponents hero opposite her at the back of the line with her Ambush which has a chance to stun. Great in PvE and PvP situations and can inflict a lot of damage on a single target.
    Calvin~hits the target directly in front with Will breaker, draining all morale (physical only). Another all rounder.
    Adamantii~His Thousand Strikes hits all opponents (with the right runes). A really powerful hero when strengthened up. All rounder, with the exception of Banish Bosses.
    Bloodstorm~Once his morale bar is filled he will continue to attack with his Rallying Strike, as his HP drains his damage increases. What can I say, this guy pwns!
    Shayd~Who's Heart of Darkness can deal a powerful magic attack on a single target with a chance to stun. Being a mage she doesn't raise an opponents morale. Great all rounder but has a terrible hit rate.
    Destroyer Herja~Her skill doesn't inflict HP damage but rather reduce an opponents morale and increasing the morale on your side. Physical heroes beside her on the field equipped with Lightbringer 6 sets will be able to fire off a skill attack every round as long as she survives.

    The Bad

    A misnomer really, kinda a mix of heroes I've come across which are useful but can live without

    General Mulan~Her Flame Wall is a fairly ok attack. She hits all opponents lined up opposite her. Great hit rate as a mage, her only weakness is that although continous, comparied to to a well built (equipped with Lightbringer+) Rhize there's no contest. Rhize everytime.
    Rhize~Hits all targets lined up opposite as Flame Wall but is the physical skill version. Can do critical hits which although needs a full morale bar ro fire off can inflict more damage, which is why when Rhize gets LB 6 set makes Mulan all but useless
    Saffron~A great tank her Shield Wall is very useful PvP early on in the game and makes her a good choice as a sub.
    Alexa~Another useful starter hero. Dervish Attack has the chance to hit a single target twice. However, without a decent hit rate rune she's easily dodged.
    Catherine/Mehvidan~Both early starter mages whose magic attack Cloud Burst (inflicts damage to one target) very useful until Shayd is aquired.
    Dawnbringer~Great 1st gold card with a lovely critical hit bonus. Sweeping Slash can be a handy skill.
    Valla~The purple equivalant to Dawnbringer and doesn't have the bonus. Useful early on but is easily surplanted by much better heroes.
    General Alcibiades~This guy is Dawnbringer on steroids. Frontal Assault hits all targets upfront regardless of whether they are lined up (which is Sweeping Slash's weakness)
    Queen Brynhildr~Hits all targets like Horns of Hell (it's a magic attack) but her Heaven's Fury has the advantage of stunning. Tends to be a bit weak on the damage though and like Shayd, has a pretty low hit rate.

    The Ugly

    The heroes which aren't worth the time.

    Smoulder~Gotten early on he's a pre-runner to Adamanti but easily supplanted by him. Horns of Hell hits all available targets but tends to miss.

    Theres' my opinions on the various heroes I've come across and tested. It'll be interesting what others opinions are.

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    I love the review! really accurate. thats why I notice that all replay in hero arena consist of Adamanti, Bloodstorm, Shyade, Cianna. These are the hero that is a Must-have-at-all-cost. I think I stayed too much playing tynon, that I missed the obvious. There will be no other build formation in this game. if you have 4 of them.
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    After the patch I would be highly tempted to move Cianna and Shayd into the Bad, or maybe the Ugly, category. Shayd's hit rate actually seems worse against bosses with a lower stun rate to boot. Cianna isn't as useful as she used to be since her stun rate was decreased and she doesn't do enough damage on skill attacks to make up for the reduced stun rate.

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    Rhize + Adam + Vipsanius w/ righteousness lvl6 could sweep 1line in 1turn

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamodomo_2092870 View Post
    I love the review! really accurate. thats why I notice that all replay in hero arena consist of Adamanti, Bloodstorm, Shyade, Cianna. These are the hero that is a Must-have-at-all-cost. I think I stayed too much playing tynon, that I missed the obvious. There will be no other build formation in this game. if you have 4 of them.
    There you go again. You're actually criticizing things you haven't tried yourself.

    After the patch I removed Cianna and Shayd from my formation completely. They're not even there as a substitute.
    And I'm trying to level a new hero now to replace Bloodstorm in the main 5 hero formation.

    Yes, that's how much the patch has shaken things up.

    If you still see Adam, Blood, Cianna, Shayd, Main hero setups, it's either they're too lazy to try the other heroes out, they don't know anything about the other heroes, or they're too scared to test new things.

    Herja + Flavius + Adam + Alci + Main -> 3 AOE attacks + 1 driving blow every turn.

    That's just an initial example.
    Last edited by Herby; 12-10-2013 at 10:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumbleguts View Post
    After the patch I would be highly tempted to move Cianna and Shayd into the Bad, or maybe the Ugly, category. Shayd's hit rate actually seems worse against bosses with a lower stun rate to boot. Cianna isn't as useful as she used to be since her stun rate was decreased and she doesn't do enough damage on skill attacks to make up for the reduced stun rate.
    I've noticed that both Cianna and Shayd have been extensively nerfed, so the initial strategy types are becoming defunct. Since stunning isn't as foolproof as it was I'm having to rethink....

    Quote Originally Posted by nur_insaniah_7250063 View Post
    Rhize + Adam + Vipsanius w/ righteousness lvl6 could sweep 1line in 1turn
    True, although a good counterform would blitz that attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    After the patch I removed Cianna and Shayd from my formation completely. They're not even there as a substitute.
    And I'm trying to level a new hero now to replace Bloodstorm in the main 5 hero formation.

    Yes, that's how much the patch has shaken things up.

    If you still see Adam, Blood, Cianna, Shayd, Main hero setups, it's either they're too lazy to try the other heroes out, they don't know anything about the other heroes, or they're too scared to test new things.

    Herja + Flavius + Adam + Alci + Main -> 3 AOE attacks + 1 driving blow every turn.

    That's just an initial example.
    It has. I've been testing Flavius Aetius today. As far as I can tell his WarCry removes 20 points of morale from all phyisical heroes. WarCry is a skill similar to Thousand Strikes but has the added touch of reducing an opponents morale.

    It seems that with the amount of morale drainers available now hybrid formations could become more common rather than the single mage + physical heroes that are the norm now. Watch this space.

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    My review of Ahmose Nekhbet.

    Ahmose Nekhbet is the 1st purple hero unlocked in the royal arena. I'm sure some may overlook him, but for those who are looking for a good mid-game tank, he should not be overlooked.

    His Greater Rampart skill attack gives him a barrier that reduces damage from physical and skill attacks by 70%, provides a 30% increase to block (if you have 0 block on him, don't expect him to suddenly start blocking), and lasts 3 rounds. The defensive bonuses granted by Greater Rampart are greater than what is offered by Shield Wall and should not be overlooked. That being said, he still has the same weakness to mage damage as Saffron.

    Once a player acquires Ahmose Nekhbet, the only reason to use Saffron in place of him would be if the player already has stars and a decent set of defensive sanctifications on Saffron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    There you go again. You're actually criticizing things you haven't tried yourself.

    After the patch I removed Cianna and Shayd from my formation completely. They're not even there as a substitute.
    And I'm trying to level a new hero now to replace Bloodstorm in the main 5 hero formation.

    Yes, that's how much the patch has shaken things up.

    If you still see Adam, Blood, Cianna, Shayd, Main hero setups, it's either they're too lazy to try the other heroes out, they don't know anything about the other heroes, or they're too scared to test new things.

    Herja + Flavius + Adam + Alci + Main -> 3 AOE attacks + 1 driving blow every turn.

    That's just an initial example.
    Or they have tested them but due to a lack of saints and stars they are ineffective for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorn View Post
    Or they have tested them but due to a lack of saints and stars they are ineffective for a while.
    Quoted for Truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorn View Post
    Or they have tested them but due to a lack of saints and stars they are ineffective for a while.
    Transfer button.

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