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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenWing View Post
    I just tested it and what you claim is completely untrue. I asked a friend to put block on her main, and had my mage hit her. I noted down the scores, which were always from 10,000 to 11,000. When my friend removed her block rune, I tested it out again and the damage range was the same.

    I AM A MYTHBUSTER! The break rune seems useless on a mage for the simple reason that block does not mitigate magic damage.
    *sigh*. Shall I make a 2 minute video showing you how to perform the test...? Because you've messed up somewhere. I just tested it once again, and my conclusion is the same as before. I am getting a static +15% damage increase when using a break rune on my mage; both my minimum and my maximum damage increase my 15%.

    --If the enemy has no block, your break is useless. More tests below; might be false.
    --If the enemy has block, and you have no break, your spell damage is reduced.
    --If the enemy has block, and you do have break, your spell damage will increase (in essence; it is not increasing the damage, but DECREASING the enemy's mitigation through block, therefore giving you a higher damage range).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6H4v6M-Ix0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm0DaWBogLM
    Last edited by Pirate_1360826; 01-14-2014 at 09:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate_1360826 View Post
    *sigh*. Shall I make a 2 minute video showing you how to perform the test...? Because you've messed up somewhere. I just tested it once again, and my conclusion is the same as before. I am getting a static +15% damage increase when using a break rune on my mage; both my minimum and my maximum damage increase my 15%.

    --If the enemy has no block, your break is useless.
    --If the enemy has block, and you have no break, your spell damage is reduced.
    --If the enemy has block, and you do have break, your spell damage will increase (in essence; it is not increasing the damage, but DECREASING the enemy's mitigation through block, therefore giving you a higher damage range).
    It seems people will have to trust one of us or either test it for themselves. However, I have tested it for myself as you suggested, and found your claim false.

    Here is my methodology, if you wish to scrutinize it or if people want to see if I did the test correctly:

    - I used medhivan and my main
    - My friend used medhivan and her main
    - My Medhivan was facing her main at the beginning of the battle.
    - For the first series of attacks, my friend had block on her main. The damage ranged from 10K to 11K for about 20 attacks.
    - For the second series of attacks, my friend removed block on her main. The damage ranged from 10K to 11K for about 20 attacks.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate_1360826 View Post
    *sigh*. Shall I make a 2 minute video showing you how to perform the test...? Because you've messed up somewhere. I just tested it once again, and my conclusion is the same as before. I am getting a static +15% damage increase when using a break rune on my mage; both my minimum and my maximum damage increase my 15%.

    --If the enemy has no block, your break is useless.
    --If the enemy has block, and you have no break, your spell damage is reduced.
    --If the enemy has block, and you do have break, your spell damage will increase (in essence; it is not increasing the damage, but DECREASING the enemy's mitigation through block, therefore giving you a higher damage range).
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6H4v6M-Ix0


    I even used Mehv for your liking. No audio or anything fancy, just thrown together for this post. Enjoy.

    EDIT: You might need to change the quality to HD, otherwise it may be hard to see rune names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate_1360826 View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6H4v6M-Ix0


    I even used Mehv for your liking. No audio or anything fancy, just thrown together for this post. Enjoy.

    EDIT: You might need to change the quality to HD, otherwise it may be hard to see rune names.
    lol that's great, You actually did have to make a video lol i find that hilarious. Hopefully it will help some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate_1360826 View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6H4v6M-Ix0


    I even used Mehv for your liking. No audio or anything fancy, just thrown together for this post. Enjoy.

    EDIT: You might need to change the quality to HD, otherwise it may be hard to see rune names.
    This is certainly a very interesting video. However, we did not test the same thing at all. I tested a magic attacker on someone with and without block, whereas you tested a magic attacker with and without break versus someone with block (all the time). My test shows that block does not mitigate magic damage, whereas your test shows that break increases magic damage. I would be curious if you ran the same test again but by having your opponent with and without block.

  6. #36
    Since all mages need resilience...

    Just put Reliability on all your mages and never worry about break anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Since all mages need resilience...

    Just put Reliability on all your mages and never worry about break anymore.
    Yes, of course, but I'm not there yet. I only have one 100-fragment rune for now and I'm on my way for my second.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenWing View Post
    This is certainly a very interesting video. However, we did not test the same thing at all. I tested a magic attacker on someone with and without block, whereas you tested a magic attacker with and without break versus someone with block (all the time). My test shows that block does not mitigate magic damage, whereas your test shows that break increases magic damage. I would be curious if you ran the same test again but by having your opponent with and without block.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm0DaWBogLM

    Again, make the video HD to see it well.

    Having no block on my target gave me numbers in the higher range, with no low (1700s) like when the target HAD block.

    And a treat for myself was in this video as well -- notice when the target has no block AND I have break. It seems to bring them to the negative block, which more than doubled my damage.
    Last edited by Pirate_1360826; 01-14-2014 at 09:20 PM.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenWing View Post
    Could someone from the Tynon team answer this question? How does break help mages? Does it help them? At least someone must know over there lol
    Good luck with that lol, Tynon wants us to find these things out on our own. So basically get yourself a Reliability double rune and your covered....you need the resilience anyway.

    Edit....Opps Herby got there first while i was typing...I suck at typing....
    Last edited by hjam_8879649; 01-14-2014 at 10:41 PM.

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    Funny, I did the same thing you did in your video when I did my test. Different results, can't fathom how that happened.

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