Cerb/Baal Stunned, but still hits?

[Rumbleguts]

I also have noticed the drop in Stun rates, but with new heroes i am getting alot higher damage, its a Seesaw effect.
With the tactical changes Tynon made, the stun rates had to be altered slightly to allow the support hero and new stuns to be effective (maybe not as low as they are though).
Imagine 4 stunners and leader fighting... chances are the enemy may never get hit off... thats kinda annoying and disheartening to opposing player.

This isn't really true, because you are forgetting that while one player may have 4 stunners, each has a low chance to stun. Therefore they are not likely to stun more then 1 or 2 a turn. Even with the AoE mage stunner, whom most won't have for a very long time. And stunners typically do less damage then others that hit one target, and do similar damage to those that hit multiple targets. And since 2 out of the 3 stunners use skill attacks to perform stuns, they won't be doing stuns each round, further lowering their total effectiveness.

Really, for me its not so much about the pvp as the pve. Stuns maybe balanced at the higher end (full lightbringer +) but I don't see it before that.

[DaBooMan]

Im at the highest end, there is no need to preech to me about that.
Im simply saying the the addition 2 stunners, the support hero, LB sets there really isnt much left to do other than use a bit of skill and work out a workable form.
Since patch ive almost done 100m damage extra in World Bosses. So decreased stuns but a lil switch around and boom, better results and still only using the same 2 stunners.

[mattp169]

Im with boo
i think the stuns were reduced a little too much but needed lowered. Ive had a 50% increase in my banish damage since the patch. 4 stunners support main 2 6pc lb sets and BOOM! It will only take about 15-20 people in a realm with that setup on one of the oldest servers to start getting the 1.25b banish done in under 15mins

Now what i dislike is this about the reduced stun rate. While me and boo can counter it, and many others. Alot of people can't because of the need for a 6pclb set for herja to be truly effective. so i know guys who could be doing as much damage as me in banish if the had 6pc lb sets but they dont, and some of them are months away from that. SO this patch puts some people ahead and some people way behind imo. ANd I think it was all unintended by the devs, but there are otehr ways to increase you damage in banish without the lb sets and 4 stunners.

[Wildflower]

Experiencing the same on server 8 as Boo and Matt.

[hjam_8879649]

Im at the highest end, there is no need to preech to me about that.
Im simply saying the the addition 2 stunners, the support hero, LB sets there really isnt much left to do other than use a bit of skill and work out a workable form.
Since patch ive almost done 100m damage extra in World Bosses. So decreased stuns but a lil switch around and boom, better results and still only using the same 2 stunners.

interesting...

So is anyone using 4 stunners? Because I have tried but the Queen seems to suck more then the rest as her stun is random area attack and with just one mob she really doesn't seem to stun much at all. I have 4 full sets of LB gear and use the morale Mag , but I do better with just 3 stunners, but still not as good as you all seem to be doing, maybe I should switch back to just 2 stunners and add another melee non stunner . hmmm....need to play around some more I guess.

[Wildflower]

I am using shayd, thucy and cianna, combined with herja and main. Doubled my damage.
Not using the queen; her damage is laughable (5000).

[hjam_8879649]

I am using shayd, thucy and cianna, combined with herja and main. Doubled my damage.
Not using the queen; her damage is laughable (5000).

Ya thats what I use when I put 3 stunners in, it does increase my damage but I was hoping for more lol , I haven't seen as many crits either , dont know if its just me or do we need a lvl 12 crit rune now? ....