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Thread: Minister Lascivius (elite heroics)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    I advocate the increased usefulness of defense in the game.

    But i don't think they should nerf any bosses. The game's too noob-friendly as it is, and making it more so will take out the challenge in the game, and make the good and paying players more bored.
    The main problem is the next heroic boss, Firelord Ignis, is a piece of cake compared to Lascivius. This just does not make any sense... all of the previous weapons bosses were more difficult than the preceding relic boss. It also seems that the three bosses before Lascivius are much, much easier than him. I know that relic bosses are supposed to be much harder than chest/helm/cloak bosses, but the massive jump in difficulty in this case just doesn't make sense, especially given how the next weapons boss is actually easier to beat.

    On another note, I feel a lot of people that can move away from the old paradigm that Cianna was almost a must-have for bosses can attain improved results against heroics. Even before the patch, I never used Cianna in heroics, since I used a two-mage lineup. I did use to rely on Cianna to get that first stun on Lascivius before the patch, in order to hold him at bay for one round while my other heroes mopped up his minions. But now, I find that using Rhize I can actually kill him in fewer tries that it used to take me using Cianna, since he allows me to kill all his minions by the middle of round 2, just in time for Shayd to start firing on Lascivius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelsha View Post
    The main problem is the next heroic boss, Firelord Ignis, is a piece of cake compared to Lascivius. This just does not make any sense... all of the previous weapons bosses were more difficult than the preceding relic boss. It also seems that the three bosses before Lascivius are much, much easier than him. I know that relic bosses are supposed to be much harder than chest/helm/cloak bosses, but the massive jump in difficulty in this case just doesn't make sense, especially given how the next weapons boss is actually easier to beat.
    Boss difficulty is relative, not absolute.

    In the justice level heroic bosses you'll find that Death Knight Elite is a lot harder to kill than the next two bosses after it.

    Pursuer Elite is a lot harder to kill than the boss before it who has more power.

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    I think you'll be fine if you have Adamanti and Bloodstorm + shayde. But the problem is, not all players has them or wants to use them.

    "Relinquish your pain unto me"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamodomo_2092870 View Post
    I think you'll be fine if you have Adamanti and Bloodstorm + shayde. But the problem is, not all players has them or wants to use them.
    The top player on my server beat Minister Lasc in heroic realm at less than 10m power. And didn't use bloodstorm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quangphi003_7549721 View Post
    i defeated him with only 13m power. ( lvl 74 )
    - Shayd Main
    - Valla Cinna
    - - Blood
    you can change Valla by any stronger hero that you hve ( AOE heroes are recommened )
    Dont care too much about your magic defence, doesn make sense with this guy. Attack, dodge and heath are much more important.
    good luck
    This is the kind of thinking required to beat minister lasc.



    Whining and complaining that he's too hard, that you're not powerful enough, yadda yadda won't help you one bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelsha View Post
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    well said! however i dont see the need to rework heroics ,you could simply reduce the HP from that particular boss by 10% and everything would work as intended


    Quote Originally Posted by lamodomo_2092870 View Post
    I think you'll be fine if you have Adamanti and Bloodstorm + shayde. But the problem is, not all players has them or wants to use them.
    i for example have all heroes, and so do most of the top 10 on our server. this heroic boss has still not been beaten yet.


    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The top player on my server beat Minister Lasc in heroic realm at less than 10m power. And didn't use bloodstorm.
    before or after update/patch and what setup? (you can get the setup from the video)
    ...and i highly doubt that

    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Originally Posted by quangphi003_7549721 View Post
    i defeated him with only 13m power. ( lvl 74 )
    - Shayd Main
    - Valla Cinna
    - - Blood
    you can change Valla by any stronger hero that you hve ( AOE heroes are recommened )
    Dont care too much about your magic defence, doesn make sense with this guy. Attack, dodge and heath are much more important.
    good luck
    This is the kind of thinking required to beat minister lasc.



    Whining and complaining that he's too hard, that you're not powerful enough, yadda yadda won't help you one bit.
    this guy is clearly talking about quest not about heroics and/or before the game update (shayd+main wont kill the marksman in time, cianna will never stun him, valla hits only twice 2 mobs in the front row and never again, this fight goes over 5 rounds)
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 12-19-2013 at 02:40 PM. Reason: bad sBelling

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    There is a simple solution to Minister Lascivious. Reduce his power so that the people that do not have Lightbringer, and that is every one that is fighting him, have a chance to beat him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    There is a simple solution to Minister Lascivious. Reduce his power so that the people that do not have Lightbringer, and that is every one that is fighting him, have a chance to beat him.
    Or they can boost defensive talents effectiveness.

    "Relinquish your pain unto me"

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    i know how to read dude . im not blind.
    I was talking about Heroic bosses.
    server 73, you can check it out yourself.
    the problem is this : before or after update/patch
    3 mil power higher, so you need to hve more power than i did. but the formation is not wrong in my opinion.
    good luck .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    well said! however i dont see the need to rework heroics ,you could simply reduce the HP from that particular boss by 10% and everything would work as intended



    i for example have all heroes, and so do most of the top 10 on our server. this heroic boss has still not been beaten yet.



    before or after update/patch and what setup? (you can get the setup from the video)
    ...and i highly doubt that



    this guy is clearly talking about quest not about heroics and/or before the game update (shayd+main wont kill the marksman in time, cianna will never stun him, valla hits only twice 2 mobs in the front row and never again, this fight goes over 5 rounds)
    No, he's talking about heroics.

    Like I said, instead of complaining, just increase your damage output, buff up your health, complete those guardian (6) /ironheart (5) sets.

    Complaining won't kill the boss. But improving your heroes will.

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