Gameplay Changes-Maria

[becalvert_1151817]

I am confused. Seriously people.

I got maria
I put 6lb on her, level 11 precise, level 9 reliability, level 70 magic attack, level 10 intense. etc.

I find her healing is great, but it misses so much more then it is useful. When it does heal it heals heroes with full HP. I personally think she was a waste of money. Yet I see others saying how great she is. What am i missing? I get at best 3 heals per attempt about 5% of the time. 30% of the time she heals 2, the rest of the time she heals 1 or misses every one.

AM I missing something. I have people telling me they have maria healing 3 or 4 heroes almost every time. I see people talking about if you are lower levels she works better. What am I missing? Is there a secret to maria to make her work better?

Hi Matt I have to agree with you and wished I knew the secret to getting her to work like others do.

For the sake and rest of you posting about if she will ever become free to recruit or not I'm pretty sure sometime down the road she will be.

[Deucalion]

I believe its a step forward for Tynon, and for uCool in general.
Too many people are of the mentality, "Free to play forever".

They need to give paying players REAL PREMIUM offers, that only they can have.
Ease, comfort, getting ahead doesn't just cut it anymore.

Some suggestions are:

- Heroes which can be recruited only by buying packages
- Map areas that are more difficult but drop unique gear, that can only be unlocked by being a certain VIP level.
- New side quests and side-bosses that are a lot more difficult, and can only be challenged by buying a special package.

These don't really make the paying player more overpowered than the non-coining ones, but instead, this gives the paying player more content and harder challanges that only they can access.

I agree 100%. I'd like to see Tynon go this route myself, but while also keeping the F2P players content, as they no doubt have been doing all along.

[sarg_7463373]

Maria is only good early on. Later on, she is pretty useless lol. I haven't used her after the 2nd day I had her.

I disagree. Maria is fantastic as long as the other guy can't two shot your heroes.

[triq]

Hi @all,

Usually I won’t talk much, but reading this thread makes my Head hurt.
So first the "you can all buy that one Hero" to change an unbalance is a bit senseless in my Eyes, it only revert the PvP balance but nothing else.
Don't know how much of you have already complete all Quest and Bosses, but for me that took Time and a Brain. Now many Players get that for 5$?

If I look at the Replays for G.Khan the Power needed to get him down is Joke.
Maria_is_so_useless_for_sure.jpg

If you all think it's a good Idea to make special Items only available for Coiners, then these game should become "Who get the biggest Card" and not a real PvP Game anymore.
Personally I play Games because it’s a Challenge for my Mind not for my Wallet.

[Pirate_1360826]

Hi @all,

Usually I won’t talk much, but reading this thread makes my Head hurt.
So first the "you can all buy that one Hero" to change an unbalance is a bit senseless in my Eyes, it only revert the PvP balance but nothing else.
Don't know how much of you have already complete all Quest and Bosses, but for me that took Time and a Brain. Now many Players get that for 5$?

If I look at the Replays for G.Khan the Power needed to get him down is Joke.
Maria_is_so_useless_for_sure.jpg

If you all think it's a good Idea to make special Items only available for Coiners, then these game should become "Who get the biggest Card" and not a real PvP Game anymore.
Personally I play Games because it’s a Challenge for my Mind not for my Wallet.

Neriya here -- I beat Khan using Maria at 37M as you see above, but I LOST 80% of the battles. I actually used a different, Maria-less, formation to beat him at 39.1M. This other formation allowed me to WIN roughly 60% of the time. So a 2M power difference and dropping Maria isn't very hard to do. Maria isn't the reason low powers can beat him, the reason low powers can beat him is because Genghis's formation is an easy one to beat.

For those who want to try without Maria and low power, the key is a strong Queen Penth (as is the key with most bosses pre-Genghis). Maria should be tanky enough to survive a standard attack from Khan, and 3 standard attacks from his minions. The trick (unlike the replays you see, which focus on killing the enemy Maria asap, is to instead kill some of the minions so that Penth can survive their assault. The formation I used to spam-kill Khan is:

Herja x Flavius
Lancelot Blood Main
x x x
RESERVE: Queen Penth

The Bloodstorm and Lancelot combo allows you to smoke down an enemy unit or two just as Penth is coming into play. Flavius is safe top because enemy Maria can't hurt him, and since he attacks first Khan doesn't do his skill, neither does the shield unit in front of him. Flavius will skill every turn and prohibit all units from using their skill, except for Khan here and there (which by this point Penth can tank his skill anyway). The enemy Maria CANNOT sustain heal the damage your two hitters are dishing out.

Once the trash is killed, your units will then kill the enemy Maria, and continue on to kill Khan.

Things you will need: a Lightbringer set, minimum (2 is MUCH better, one for Flavius and one for Lancelot); around 95-100k health on Penth; strong offence on Blood/Lancelot (my Lance was critting for 350k to give an idea); a level 10 Dexterousness/Reliability rune on Penth; and a tonne of stamina.

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Now stop complaining about Maria. Spend the bloody $5 and support Tynon or don't spend it and don't complain about people who DO spend it. She is just another tool to be utilized, and not the be-all and end-all of heroes.

[VillainX]

I believe its a step forward for Tynon, and for uCool in general.
Too many people are of the mentality, "Free to play forever".

They need to give paying players REAL PREMIUM offers, that only they can have.
Ease, comfort, getting ahead doesn't just cut it anymore.

Some suggestions are:

- Heroes which can be recruited only by buying packages
- Map areas that are more difficult but drop unique gear, that can only be unlocked by being a certain VIP level.
- New side quests and side-bosses that are a lot more difficult, and can only be challenged by buying a special package.

These don't really make the paying player more overpowered than the non-coining ones, but instead, this gives the paying player more content and harder challanges that only they can access.

Herby I agree fully that this is exactly what the game needs. Of course the F2P players arent going to like it, but after all uCool is a company and Tynon is one of its business ventures. If everybody could be the top dog, then there would be NO top dog.
I havent coined very much at all compared to many of the poeple that play the game, VIP3 is enough for me. BUT the option to be able to have "Special" heroes that not everyone has is something the game needs. I may not purchase every single "Package Deal" with a hero inside, or every "special area" that comes with access only to certain VIP levels, but having the option too DOES deliver more content to a very large group of the player base. Yes I'd like to see more content available for ALL players as well, but if you spend with a company that not everyone spends with you should be awarded something the F2P players cant have, not just a speedup or power boost, but a unique product.
Even though it wouldn't advantage me as much as others for it to happen, I'd still love to see it as I believe it would increase the player base. I know there are some of you who will not agree, but I think this is a step in the right direction.

[triq]

Hi Neriya,

nice that you can use your Brain to win :-).
Of Course I like it when Players win cause the put effort into it, but I don’t like it if Players with 50-70m Power, that weren't able to take him down, get him now cause they paid for it.

To VillainX I don't know your Server, but where is the challenge if I can only counter a Hero if I buy him myself?
I don't think the Number of Players will increase if they can only do well if they buy something.
And I'm sure the Number of Players like Neriya, who I would like to challenge because he can give me a hard fight, won’t get higher.

BTW: Maria is a nice Hero, I tested her at beta and I think she will fulfill her purpose to help new Players to grow up faster.
But for now she won't shake up the World of the big Guys.

[Morgan le Fay]

I haven't spent much on this game, only VIP5 but I did buy Maria with her help I beat and after a few attempts Khan dropped for me. My powers was about 50m.

Maria was equipped with a lv11 preciseness and I used Flav as a sub. Now I lost approximately 40% of the battles I had with Khan before he dropped, so it wasn't easy. I only had 1 lightbringer set.

Pompey Blood main
[x] Maria Amhose

Probably not the best formation but my Queen Pen couldn't survive an attack from Khan.

[g346007_1906957]

Well, we still don't know for sure that there isn't another way to get maria (kinda disappointed the quest wasn't it though). Right now you have to buy her in the first week, and it's almost unreasonable to expect people to dump money on a game they are still exploring, so it's a good sign that there should be another way. Until they fix methods of getting rep, I hope it's not by title. A 16k rep upkeep is ridiculous. The reason Tynon makes money right now is because it is a highly competitive game. But if they respond to pleas for more handicaps, I think that will soon change.

Well, ty for all the info on her from those of you who have gotten her. She seems really fun to play; I still have my fingers crossed.

[Herby]

You need level 12 preciseness, level 10 Reliability, and (maybe) level 10 Advantage on Maria to see her shine.

A level 99/100 staff and level 100 Illuminated Mind also helps a lot.