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Thread: Gameplay Changes-Maria

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    You need level 12 preciseness, level 10 Reliability, and (maybe) level 10 Advantage on Maria to see her shine.

    A level 99/100 staff and level 100 Illuminated Mind also helps a lot.

    lets think this through a minute.
    Preciseness reduces misses....we all know this. It also counters a dodge rune.
    Reliability counters a block rune
    advanage counters a resilience rune

    so the stronger your own heroes defensive runes are the less likely maria will heal them?

    this i need to test.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    lets think this through a minute.
    Preciseness reduces misses....we all know this. It also counters a dodge rune.
    Reliability counters a block rune
    advanage counters a resilience rune

    so the stronger your own heroes defensive runes are the less likely maria will heal them?

    this i need to test.
    I think her spell's base hit chance scales inversely with her level, to be honest. I've tried removing all of the defence runes from my heroes and she doesn't heal them any more than normal. Her hit rune is making a pretty big difference. Break doesn't SEEM to be helping, and I haven't tried critical hit yet (but I will right now). I'll do a few more tests and play around with her some more and post again if I find anything interesting.

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    Has anyone actually tested to see if your own dodge runes make maria healing your team harder yet?

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Kruize View Post
    Has anyone actually tested to see if your own dodge runes make maria healing your team harder yet?
    see this is what i want to know as well, plus do block runes make a difference as well

    ill spam specwar a bit and see

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    Quote Originally Posted by triq View Post
    To VillainX I don't know your Server, but where is the challenge if I can only counter a Hero if I buy him myself?
    Your assuming that the heroes you already have access too cannot counter it... That is a foolish way to think with this game. Tynon would never offer a totally game ending hero to only the coiners. They don't want a headache from flow of complaints that will come in from F2P'ers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deucalion View Post
    Your assuming that the heroes you already have access too cannot counter it... That is a foolish way to think with this game. Tynon would never offer a totally game ending hero to only the coiners. They don't want a headache from flow of complaints that will come in from F2P'ers.

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    I'm completely comfortable not beating the person who spent 75k on his/her Hobby. You aren't?
    She does change the game quite a bit. Maybe there are ways to counter her in 1 vs. 1 fights, but she gives considerable advantages to guild wars and rag (when fighting multiple weaker opponents). From what I hear about her, she won't be that good in endgame pvp, but I never get to try her out with my team.

  7. #37
    Ok did some testing
    I hit the same person over and over

    I am at level 105

    Here are my results

    Maria has no precise but has lvl 9 reliability
    All my heroes have dodge and block runes - mixed levels of 8-11

    Maria Missed 73.1% of the time

    Next

    Maria no precise level 9 reliability
    My heroes have no dodge runes but still have block runes
    Maria missed 73.4% of the time

    next

    Maria has precise 11 reliability 9
    heroes have dodge and block runes
    Maria misses 55%

    Maria has Precise 11 reliability 9
    Heroes have no dodge runes but have block runes
    Maria misses 66.66% of the time

    Maria has preciseness 11 reliability 9 crit 10
    heroes have no dodge or block runes
    maria misses 65%


    I believe the 55% miss rate would go slightly higher with further testing. But basically it seems to me that block and dodge runes on your heroes make no difference. Hit rating does make some difference but not that much. I went form no preciseness to level 11 preciseness and the best i saw was a 18% increase but as low as a 7% increase.

    These results were generated with about 20-25 rounds of healing attempts from maria per test.
    Last edited by mattp169; 01-16-2014 at 12:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelsha View Post
    Maria is only good early on. Later on, she is pretty useless lol. I haven't used her after the 2nd day I had her.
    I would not be too sure about that. There is a replay on Kahn where the fight last for 10 minutes and in the end Khan is beaten and it was not even close. The attacker has Maria and Destroyer and the rest are purples.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Kruize View Post
    Has anyone actually tested to see if your own dodge runes make maria healing your team harder yet?
    I have dodge 10-12 on all heroes and Maria heals my team pretty effectively.

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    I have dodge 10-12 on all heroes and Maria heals my team pretty effectively.
    herby lets get some numbers. Effectively to you could be 1 out of 5 every time.

    My data shows she is very ineffective with even a precise 11 in my opinion

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