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    I don't think there's any connection to her effectivity with the player's level.

    I'm level 108 with 260 hit rate on Maria, 65K magic attack, and she heals very effectively in both Laby and CWF.

    Heals up to 68k hp also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    I don't think there's any connection to her effectivity with the player's level.

    I'm level 108 with 260 hit rate on Maria, 65K magic attack, and she heals very effectively in both Laby and CWF.

    Heals up to 68k hp also.
    Does she heal all your heroes consistently?
    She does for the lower powered players.
    Something definitely changes at some point.

    When mine heals, she heals 1 or 2 for the amount of her magic attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    I don't think there's any connection to her effectivity with the player's level.

    I'm level 108 with 260 hit rate on Maria, 65K magic attack, and she heals very effectively in both Laby and CWF.

    Heals up to 68k hp also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildflower View Post
    Does she heal all your heroes consistently?
    She does for the lower powered players.
    Something definitely changes at some point.

    When mine heals, she heals 1 or 2 for the amount of her magic attack.
    She heals between 1-5 heroes each turn. It's not a sure thing. Targetting is like Smoulder's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    She heals between 1-5 heroes each turn. It's not a sure thing. Targetting is like Smoulder's.




    10 stars.
    It is a sure thing for the lower powers, in that lies the difference.
    At some point she starts missing heroes in you party.
    You can watch the replays of plague professor to see that their maria consistently heals the whole party.

    It does not mean she is not effective, but it is interesting to find out the tipping point and the reason why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildflower View Post
    It is a sure thing for the lower powers, in that lies the difference.
    At some point she starts missing heroes in you party.
    You can watch the replays of plague professor to see that their maria consistently heals the whole party.

    It does not mean she is not effective, but it is interesting to find out the tipping point and the reason why.
    It is interesting, but of no relevance.

    You will need to level up no matter what happens. Therefore, it really doesn't matter if Maria misses or not past a certain level.

    What's important to know is, even at the highest levels, she is still useful and contributes a lot to a party's success.

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    Maybe her hit rating matters on the opponents dodge too, if your opponent has very minimum dodge smoulder will hit all heroes as well most rounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    It is interesting, but of no relevance.

    You will need to level up no matter what happens. Therefore, it really doesn't matter if Maria misses or not past a certain level.

    What's important to know is, even at the highest levels, she is still useful and contributes a lot to a party's success.
    It does have relevance to what I said. It looks like the hit/miss ratio goes down as the player moves up. As Wildflower said, it could be linked to player level of the level of the Illuminated Mind. The hit/miss ratio is definitely not like Smo for the lower level players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    It is interesting, but of no relevance.

    You will need to level up no matter what happens. Therefore, it really doesn't matter if Maria misses or not past a certain level.

    What's important to know is, even at the highest levels, she is still useful and contributes a lot to a party's success.
    It is the main focus of the thread, that there is a difference between how she behaves for lower powers and how she behaves for higher powers.
    It is confirmed and once we know what the tipping point is, we know whether or not we can do something to make her behave differently.
    If we can, I would find that relevant.

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    10k Magic attack is the point (for low level with some hit rating) - miss rate increases horribly. We are keeping Maria around 9.4-9.7k magic attack - no misses AT ALL (160 hit rating), once above 10k, hardly hits 2 heroes per turn

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