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    Quote Originally Posted by Athena3.14159_144938 View Post
    Holistic healing and healers have indeed been around for quite some time. Maria, is a name more in the Roman or Rhaeto-Romantic tradition, who I would not suppose would be outfitted in the Gothic tradition, as this character is, except that her outfit is a Roman white, not a traditional Gothic healer toga, which would have been beige, tan, or forestal green, and a bit longer. Sure, the emerald staff is authentic enough.... I don't have access to the Swiss National Holistic Healing Center History Library, thus I cannot definitively tell you how her runes would have ideally been created to match the Maria, Queen of Vestal Arts healing abilities.
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    Awesomeness

    I think if you get her in the beginning then she is better than when u get it afterwards

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    Exclamation Is maria nerfed too much in the wrong places?

    before you complain (yes matty, i am looking at you jk), hear me out. after getting my maria finally to domi 5 and lucky on the sancts, i ended up with 341 (!!!) hitrating. it made me very happy at first and i couldnt wait to try out my new "secret support" weapon. after intensive testing against a variety of strong players with a variety of runes, there is one thing i noticed that happened over and over again:
    with maria its a game of hit or miss - depending on your luck.

    with an equal parties set up (no stunners), where there was a 50/50 shot with various heroes she either over or under performed. i had won matches with 100% HP and have lost significantly in the next matches after. i added and removed her preciseness 12 rune (220 hit) with the same results.

    after a week of intensive testing i came to the conclusion that with maria its too much of a game of chance and the hit rating is either not included into the damage calculation or bugged or too insignificant.
    this is especially disturbing in two ways:
    a) because she comes with +40 hit out of the start, but whats it good for if it doesnt matter in the first place?
    b) if she has a low hit rating her own team mates can dodge her! (this is especially disturbing because since she didnt miss and would have healed, they shouldnt be able to block/dodge the heal from the own party!)


    my suggestion is to make the heals themselves much more dependent on the 'hit rating + critical' than on the 'magic attack + luck'. i removed a few hit rating stats (now at 310) and got them replaced with blue and purple magic attacks and am getting somewhat better results in the same testfield.

    my conclusion: dont count on hit rating when it comes to your maria
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 03-13-2015 at 12:50 AM.
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    How many stars kaisim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandekop_693725 View Post
    How many stars kaisim?
    i think she is at 14 stars right now, but that shouldnt matter, my point was the hit rating and not the healing/defense/resist power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    i think she is at 14 stars right now, but that shouldnt matter, my point was the hit rating and not the healing/defense/resist power.
    Magic attack on maria = total max healing. Mine is at 140k so she heals one hero for 140k then random like half of the 140 ie 70k 70k

    Edit: Stars dont matter? Since when? I got 18 on all my heroes this increases command which makes blocking/dodging more do able....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGB View Post
    Magic attack on maria = total max healing. Mine is at 140k so she heals one hero for 140k then random like half of the 140 ie 70k 70k

    Edit: Stars dont matter? Since when? I got 18 on all my heroes this increases command which makes blocking/dodging more do able....
    it was referring to post#83 where i was talking about hit rating and that stars dont matter to it. yes stars matter for mattk/healing, defense, resistance i know that and pointed it out in post #85 but the hit rating as an isolated factor, as far as i am capable doing on an open server without modifying stats, i can ensure you that her hit rating is nerfed so hard that it almost doesnt matter anymore
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    it was referring to post#83 where i was talking about hit rating and that stars dont matter to it. yes stars matter for mattk/healing, defense, resistance i know that and pointed it out in post #85 but the hit rating as an isolated factor, as far as i am capable doing on an open server without modifying stats, i can ensure you that her hit rating is nerfed so hard that it almost doesnt matter anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by BGB View Post
    OMG! I didnt wanna spend anymore time on this game sorry for wasting 10mins of your life getting those save links haha!!! JK!!!
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    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Well im having trouble with runes on Maria and the runes that I have on Maria now are vigor(health), hawkishness(hit rating), advantage(critical), resistance(block), messiness(magic defence), nimbleness(dodge), focused(magic attack). Do i want break and resillencce instead of critical?
    Last edited by Saboteur_2251750; 04-07-2015 at 09:40 PM. Reason: miss worded something

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