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    BUG: Greater Rampart

    When fighting Elite Pursuer, I noticed that Saffron, with almost identical stats, takes 3k less damage than Ahmose. I ended up switching to Saffron to tank Pursuer instead of Ahmose. Greater Rampart's damage reduction no longer matches the description. Anyone else notice this?

    I shouldn't have used "nerf" in the thread title. Unless the skill description is updated, any difference in actual damage reduction compared to the description should be considered a bug.
    Last edited by Rocco; 01-24-2014 at 07:28 PM.

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    I haven't been on today, so unless this happened overnight, it hasn't been nerfed (or I somehow didn't notice it despite using Ahmose all the time).

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    It didn't happen overnight. I'm pretty sure when i first tested this, Ahmose had a better damage reduction than Saffron. Saffron's is slightly better now
    Last edited by Rocco; 01-23-2014 at 05:32 PM.

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    i think you are right. damage is reduced by about 55% now instead of 70%... i can see this on a boss fight that i've been working on for the past 2 weeks... i predict they will update the skill description to read 55%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco View Post
    When fighting Elite Pursuer, I noticed that Saffron, with almost identical stats, takes 3k less damage than Ahmose. I ended up switching to Saffron to tank Pursuer instead of Ahmose. Greater Rampart's damage reduction no longer matches the description. Anyone else notice this?

    hmmm i checked for u now my ahmose takes 31k dmg instead of the 22k in the replay. .. so either persuer got stronger or ahmose weaker.

    + he has 5% magic resistance now? (ahmose that is )
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokingfox View Post
    hmmm i checked for u now my ahmose takes 31k dmg instead of the 22k in the replay. .. so either persuer got stronger or ahmose weaker.

    + he has 5% magic resistance now? (ahmose that is )
    Thanks for checking smokingfox. They might have changed the boss, but I think it is Ahmose that got weaker because Saffron now has better damage mitigation (with almost identical stats). I believe Shield Wall is 60% reduction. Fascile's 55% seems about right. I started the Pursuer fight without morale and took a hit from Pursuer. Then started the fight again with full morale and took the same hit with Rampart up. I did this twice and the reduction was within the 55% range. Of course, probably need more samples to be accurate, but definitely less than 60%.

    I'm not surprised that they would nerf Ahmose. With Maria, he makes a formidable PVE tank. Since Rampart also gives 30% block increase, it seems to make sense to lower his damage reduction to make him inline with Saffron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco View Post
    Thanks for checking smokingfox. They might have changed the boss, but I think it is Ahmose that got weaker because Saffron now has better damage mitigation (with almost identical stats). I believe Shield Wall is 60% reduction. Fascile's 55% seems about right. I started the Pursuer fight without morale and took a hit from Pursuer. Then started the fight again with full morale and took the same hit with Rampart up. I did this twice and the reduction was within the 55% range. Of course, probably need more samples to be accurate, but definitely less than 60%.

    I'm not surprised that they would nerf Ahmose. With Maria, he makes a formidable PVE tank. Since Rampart also gives 30% block increase, it seems to make sense to lower his damage reduction to make him inline with Saffron.
    queen P still tops that.. as long as she survives and does more dmg then she has hp she will never die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokingfox View Post
    queen P still tops that.. as long as she survives and does more dmg then she has hp she will never die.
    Not true, a stun could be lethal to her. And lol I like that logic, "As long as she survives... she will never die". Very true indeed, O wise one. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkwongfl_7919855 View Post
    Not true, a stun could be lethal to her. And lol I like that logic, "As long as she survives... she will never die". Very true indeed, O wise one. Lol.
    -.- i was talking about persuer he can't stun

    and i was talking about 1 round of survival to then get back all the hp she lost..

    but yes pvp tanks a different matter. but then ahmose saffron are bad to because the shield won't work vs magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokingfox View Post
    queen P still tops that.. as long as she survives and does more dmg then she has hp she will never die.
    Only if she can survive each round of combat. She gets a lot of white and blue saints, so it is difficult to get enough HP on her.

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