Well, for example, in some PVE fights you may want high, focused damage which means you might want to take out Adam. Without adam, you could replace Herja with a damage dealer. In a case like this, you want to use as many heroes that dont consume morale as possible - Blood, Khan, Pompey and KT.Originally Posted by veration_4966021
Herja will be thing of the past once sirus set comes out. Even purples will have enough retained morale to not need her. Pretty sure of this.
Also Adamanti is too over used. With full judgement set and 95% morale retention... unless the opponent has all heros that do not lose morale, Adamanti will not need herja.
Which then begs to ask the question about De Luc and Ahmose who will also have 95% morale retention... making them + Queen P more powerful that the current top heros. Queen P can run circles around Kahn if she retained her morale.
Need to fix the top heros for better balance for which they were intended.
Suggestion:
SAINTS:
GOLD = YELLOW
PURPPLE = PURPLE
BLUE = BLUE
WHITE = WHITE
Then now you would have a differentiators for various classes of HEROS.
Make sense? Please let the DEV team know so they fix it.
I think Herja can still have a decent amount of effect on sirus sets. Could be a difference maker if she manages to drop someone below the 100 moral mark. I agree that the top level heroes need to stop being nerfed...not sure why they changed Khan...his compounding HP was the only thing that made him better than Queen P.
If one side ran Herja Flavius Adam and the other side ran only Flavius and Adam and both sides had Sirius sets (105 morale retention), the side with Herja will skill every round while the side without will not.
If one side had Flavius and Adam and the other side had Herja and Adam, both sides would skill every round.
If both sides had Flavius and Adam, then neither side would skill every round.
If both sides had Herja and Adam, then the would both skill every round (this is the obvious one).
Hence, which of the 3 you include depends on your opponents set up.
Past Sirus is Drangon Scale set... I highly doubt that Herja will be needed with this set.
The thing is... when you get "all" of you Black Smith to 80+ on your cloak, chest, and Helm... the fight is going to go on for a while... not many people will be doing mass crit and be able to kill in 1 - 2 shot and you will be lucky to bee able to crit someone similar level as you with the topped lvl 12 resilience rune... and max lvl 12 dodge.. and lvl 12 resistance...
Then Pompey is gonna look real nice right about now... with Maria as a partner... because Adamanti is only going to tickle it.
Now what does this mean for Adamanti? He will be like Smoulder... but with a little more punch.
This brings us back to the Kahn... again... with self heals + Maria heals with endless morale... and also makes Blood, Pompey, King Thesus, Aphrodite, and Queen Bryn, a nice formation when the 2nd sub opens up.
This is end game fighting ... so take it within this context.
Then the future heros that will open up... This is going to get even better. Maybe we will see a Adamanti+ hero which AOE all + stuns (as a melee class). Now this would be incredible even if it misses as much as Queen Bryn...
Dragonscale is 115 morale retention. You would need morale retention 125 to skill every round if opponent has Flav. 135 retention if they use Flav + Herja.
However, your point about Adam being less useful is true.
When Maria first came out, I posted she will EVENTUALLY make Adam useless, reason being Maria's heal amount cannot be reduced while Adam's could be (by high level armor as you mentioned). People laughed at me then, but eventually I see people transferring their Adam's to Blood or Pompey or maybe even Khan or Rhize.
I wouldn't bother using King T though, would rather add a tank. King T wouldn't be very much use for the same reason Adam won't be in the future.
Ahh... BUT with King T.. he has built in 40 crit. So now if you can selectively remove the unwanted saitns and keep sainting it to get more crit... it may be worth using him and Kahn. Kahn has 30 built in crit + 10 block or dodge (forget which). But they need to do something with Kahn like add 30% phy damage reduction to make it a bit more survivable (similar to Ahmose).
But regardless, adamanti will still be useful for a long time to come. Just the end fights.. we will see how the new heros coming will change it. I am saving my transfer for them.
EDIT: Also assuming Flav does not "miss" May be hard if the opponent has maxed out dodge.
It takes gems to remove unwanted saints. I coin moderately, but I doubt I will be able to afford to get perfect sanctifies on even one or two heroes.
How much gems to remove unwanted saints? Damn... it is expensive enough to put it on. now we have to pay to have them removed? WTF?
Not sure, but Dawn said there is an option to remove unwanted saints at a cost of gems.
If this is the case, then wow they really came up with a good moneymaker!
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