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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    Yea but the cost is high now as you go up, right now you have 2 option either not level up you sancity and wait for the ones you want or just keep going up and then remove some later for a higher cost. But if its changed to waht is suggested players will only go up first and then remove theri saints and most will have very good saints on thier heroes
    OK, lets be honest. By even adding the option to remove single saints Tynon has already made this possible. If a coiner that decides he wants to have a hero with 5 dodge saintings, and spends the money to make it happen, it can happen now EVEN if it were left like it is. I still fail to see why you referred to this as exploitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VillainX View Post
    OK, lets be honest. By even adding the option to remove single saints Tynon has already made this possible. If a coiner that decides he wants to have a hero with 5 dodge saintings, and spends the money to make it happen, it can happen now EVEN if it were left like it is. I still fail to see why you referred to this as exploitable.
    Yes they can still do this right now but then they will have to wait at a lower saint level while waiting for what they want thus having lesser power. But if changed they can be at almost max power and try for the saints they want therefore it should cost more if someone wants to attempt that at a higher power otherwise they will expoloit it by getting more stronger by changing saints all the time and still haveing almost max power too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    Yes they can still do this right now but then they will have to wait at a lower saint level while waiting for what they want thus having lesser power. But if changed they can be at almost max power and try for the saints they want therefore it should cost more if someone wants to attempt that at a higher power otherwise they will exploit it by getting more stronger by changing saints all the time and still haveing almost max power too
    I get this point and I think its very very valid which is why i have adde dto my idea that every time you remove a saint it increases the cost of the next removal

    But as it works now
    you start with a mortal
    saint it - if you get something you wnat to have permanently move on
    if its not what you want end game reset for free
    at saint 1 the next saint costs 1 gem to remove
    so if you dont like teh second saint spend 1 gem and keep doing this until you have the saint you want.


    SO this way actually make sit easier to abuse teh system and poart of why boo says you should be able to get one free complete reset per hero so he could do this, I mean its not brain surgery.
    Reset adam
    get 10 cards
    and for like a few gems keep resetting till you have like 2 crit or crit dodge on him for his first 2 saints and keep repeating until you have like 5 crit saintings on him.

    The current method is suspicious if you are unlucky and makes it super easy to make super powerful heroes now.
    Last edited by mattp169; 02-11-2014 at 12:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    I get this point and I think its very very valid which is why i have adde dto my idea that every time you remove a saint it increases the cost of the next removal

    But as it works now
    you start with a mortal
    saint it - if you get something you wnat to have permanently move on
    if its not what you want end game reset for free
    at saint 1 the next saint costs 1 gem to remove
    so if you dont like teh second saint spend 1 gem and keep doing this until you have the saint you want.


    SO this way actually make sit easier to abuse teh system and poart of why boo says you should be able to get one free complete reset per hero so he could do this, I mean its not brain surgery.
    Reset adam
    get 10 cards
    and for like a few gems keep resetting till you have like 2 crit or crit dodge on him for his first 2 saints and keep repeating until you have like 5 crit saintings on him.

    The current method is suspicious if you are unlucky and makes it super easy to make super powerful heroes now.
    You assume two things:

    1. A person will reset his adam to mortal, losing all saints (hp, crit, satk, etc)

    2. You will get a crit more than once every 10 cards. Saint II can fail btw.
    In my observations, you get a crit once in every 30-40 saints, if you get them at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    You assume two things:

    1. A person will reset his adam to mortal, losing all saints (hp, crit, satk, etc)

    2. You will get a crit more than once every 10 cards. Saint II can fail btw.
    In my observations, you get a crit once in every 30-40 saints, if you get them at all.
    You are absolutely right getting 5 crits form saint 1 to saint 5 may take alot of cards.

    But seriously you dont think people are contemplating doing stuff like this with the new system? or at least trying to make it so they get all gold saints on the first 5 - 10 saints?

    And transferring your adam to say king t or khan?
    And with rhize being such a very good gold with only 1k spirit cost per card makes doing this with rhize sound good to me.

    SO I agree that getting 5 crits on a gold form saint 1 to 5 may be difficult, but getting 5 awesome gold saints on a hero form saint 1 to 5 would not be that difficult now. and not that expensive.
    What I am suggesting is not that unreasonable.
    ANd as you have pointed out many many times herby - adam will be less of a factor eventually. SO why not do this with king T or aphrodite or khan. could you imagine a khan that always crits. or an aphrodite that has 5 +15 hit ratings or a bryn like that. My bryn is saint 1. I could play around and try to get her nothing but hit ratings, same with maria. If i get either of them with 3-6 gold hit ratings and even if it take 40 or 50 cards per hero to do that? You think that wont over power a hero? Now what I am suggesting may not even be possible. The system may be hard coded to only give a hero no more then 2 hit ratings or 2 crits ever? It may not be. Who knows? The tynon motto is "its more fun to figure it out yourself" SO im sure someone is playing around with this concept. Who knows boo may already be doing it or kruize. Maybe Ill give it a shot. Make a queen bryn that almost never misses. wow that would be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    You are absolutely right getting 5 crits form saint 1 to saint 5 may take alot of cards.

    But seriously you dont think people are contemplating doing stuff like this with the new system? or at least trying to make it so they get all gold saints on the first 5 - 10 saints?

    And transferring your adam to say king t or khan?
    And with rhize being such a very good gold with only 1k spirit cost per card makes doing this with rhize sound good to me.

    SO I agree that getting 5 crits on a gold form saint 1 to 5 may be difficult, but getting 5 awesome gold saints on a hero form saint 1 to 5 would not be that difficult now. and not that expensive.
    What I am suggesting is not that unreasonable.
    ANd as you have pointed out many many times herby - adam will be less of a factor eventually. SO why not do this with king T or aphrodite or khan. could you imagine a khan that always crits. or an aphrodite that has 5 +15 hit ratings or a bryn like that. My bryn is saint 1. I could play around and try to get her nothing but hit ratings, same with maria. If i get either of them with 3-6 gold hit ratings and even if it take 40 or 50 cards per hero to do that? You think that wont over power a hero? Now what I am suggesting may not even be possible. The system may be hard coded to only give a hero no more then 2 hit ratings or 2 crits ever? It may not be. Who knows? The tynon motto is "its more fun to figure it out yourself" SO im sure someone is playing around with this concept. Who knows boo may already be doing it or kruize. Maybe Ill give it a shot. Make a queen bryn that almost never misses. wow that would be fun.
    There's a built-in failsafe. Crit, Dodge, Hit Rating, Block, never go to 100% chance.
    Even if you hit a 0 Resilience hero with 250 crit, there's a chance you won't crit.

    So there will never be a hero who always crits, always dodges, always blocks.
    Mages have a built in miss rate too, so there will never be a mage who always hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    There's a built-in failsafe. Crit, Dodge, Hit Rating, Block, never go to 100% chance.
    Even if you hit a 0 Resilience hero with 250 crit, there's a chance you won't crit.

    So there will never be a hero who always crits, always dodges, always blocks.
    Mages have a built in miss rate too, so there will never be a mage who always hits.
    Well just like many thought there was no way to crit banish, we discovered if you get the number high enough you can crit.

    SO how are you so sure there isnt a magic number to always crit always dodge always hit? Herby you are a smart guy, but sometimes you make assumptions and present them as facts. Granted alot of your assumptions are correct at times.

    But even if you get a hero that crits 90% of the time. Thats devastating

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