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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Let's not start with this nonsense. You don't have data. We can have a productive discussion about game changes without resorting to absurdity.



    If you did less damage, its not a result of any change we made. You're the only one who has mentioned it. I'm following up on the game changes, please be patient.

    Let's step back for a moment here. I know it stinks to get 20% less coins than before, but its not the end of the world.

    I'll figure out what is up with it, but my guess is that because banishes have gotten so big and damage has gone so high, players are just pulling in a lot more income from it than we ever intended. As a result players may be outpacing our development cycles. We are working as fast as we can on new content, but the reality is we are a small company with a small team and we can't just crank out new content every 2 weeks.
    So much to say here on this one response.
    First Dawn Thanks for checking in to things and trying to get us some info. But I think we should get the info before the changes. This patch has done more then just changed banish rewards. Lab costs have changed in a good way and card broker costs changed to 30 gems as well. Plus there was a glitch or 2 fixed. The community should be told first, it would make Dawn's job a lot easier.
    As usual it is the fact that we dont get warnings or any information about changes that upsets people so much. This leads to the rants and raves in the forum.

    If uCool is such a small company one would think that communication between the entire team is easy, so why is it Dawn you seem to be the last to know about things? That just seems odd to me if you are the community representative. The company needs to do a much better job at communicating within the organization so the community rep knows everything that is happening and can handle any and all issues in the community with as much knowledge and efficiency as possible. This unfortunately is not happening and Dawn you should let your bosses know that if they changed things a little your job would be easier and you'd have a happier customer base, which should lead to increased sales.

    Now this is the second time in a week that Dawn's response has ridiculed a forum member's opinion. Calling Yelsha's statement absurd and nonsense is unprofessional and I believe an apology is due to Yelsha.

    In terms to how fast there is new content....
    Well it is taking much longer then any one expected. Once again if we knew what is going on and were given updates from the dev team with ETAS, then many people would calm down over new content. But there is almost no reason that the searing desert bosses are closed off now. They should have been powered up with fllips and stats by now. ANd getting a few HR bosses out should not be an issue since they are just powered up version of quest bosses that have been out for months.

    No one expects new content every two weeks on an indefinite basis. However this forum has presented enough bugs,glitches, minor changes and new concepts to produce alot of updates. These updates may just be fixes and minor improvements to game play. But none-the-less the devs have more then enough to do so they could actually release updates to the software on a weekly basis for many months.

    I do find the fact that the dev team spends more energy in changing old content than developing new content disturbing. I played beta, i played server 1 since day 1, I have started a couple characters on other servers from time to time. The first say 10-20 missions have been updated,revised and changed probably 8 times since beta. The sad thing about this fact is the energy spent on this would have been better spent on newer content because the majority of people who spend money here will never see those changes. Mainly new players and the occasional veteran who starts a new server will see ALL those many changes to the beginning missions. So all the story line changes, graphics changes,map changes etc seem wasted on the vast majority of the player base. I think most of us would have preferred the energy used on these changes to the early missions be put into releasing more content. i think this constant need to tweak the old content disturbing. The old content is fine. New content would be much more appreciated.

    Now is the reduced amount of coins and credits a major deal? No its not. It is a stupid in my opinion. Most of us realized it was to slow down progress. Now many have said they are tired of progress being slowed down in forums, so why the devs would ignore that fact is beyond my understanding.

    But the major issue is they changed a major part of the game with no announcement or warning. This needs to stop. JUST TELL US THINGS BEFORE AND AS THEY ARE HAPPENING.
    The "it's more fun to figure it out yourself" concept is being applied to every part of the game lately. As you can see by the majority of posts about changes, it is not always more fun to figure it out yourself.

    Ucool should make whatever changes they want and add or delete content as they want.
    If they wanted to
    - reduce rewards -FINE
    - take away stuns in banish -FINE
    - not release any new HR bosses until May - FINE
    - never merge a server - FINE

    JUST TELL THE PLAYER BASE WHAT IS GOING ON. TELL US AHEAD OF TIME. KEEP US INFORMED.
    If that was done 50% of the posts on this forum would not even exist, people would be happier and probably spending more money on the game and getting more people to play the game as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Let's step back for a moment here. I know it stinks to get 20% less coins than before, but its not the end of the world.

    I'll figure out what is up with it, but my guess is that because banishes have gotten so big and damage has gone so high, players are just pulling in a lot more income from it than we ever intended. As a result players may be outpacing our development cycles. We are working as fast as we can on new content, but the reality is we are a small company with a small team and we can't just crank out new content every 2 weeks.
    The real problem is doing it without telling us that it is being done and why. If there had been some sort of communication that said something like "We made a change to the rewards that you get from the Banish event by reducing ..... t because ......" there would not be as many complains. You need to take back to your management that the improving of communications is probably the best thing that they can do to improve player satisfaction that will not impact development since the design and development teal is not involved. All they needs to be done is to keep you informed of the changes that are going in and for you to post them.

    One thing. Just saying what is being done may not be enough, specially when the change is going to reduce what a player gets, like the reduce rewards from Banish. It also needs to say why it is being done so that we do not get all the ranting in the forum about it. Yes, I know that there will still be some complains, but if there is a rational reason why it is done then the serious players will not be complaining, or at least the discussion of the changes will be more productive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Let's not start with this nonsense. You don't have data. We can have a productive discussion about game changes without resorting to absurdity.



    If you did less damage, its not a result of any change we made. You're the only one who has mentioned it. I'm following up on the game changes, please be patient.

    Let's step back for a moment here. I know it stinks to get 20% less coins than before, but its not the end of the world.

    I'll figure out what is up with it, but my guess is that because banishes have gotten so big and damage has gone so high, players are just pulling in a lot more income from it than we ever intended. As a result players may be outpacing our development cycles. We are working as fast as we can on new content, but the reality is we are a small company with a small team and we can't just crank out new content every 2 weeks.

    I have so much to say to this, but i'm going to hold back and keep it as civil as I can.

    Dawn,

    your rampant unprofessionalism is bordering on the absurd and beginning to make it sound like you have never worked in customer service before. We are not your friends. We are not in a bar getting worked up about some new bill working its way through city council over a few drinks. Please dump this ridiculous "we're best friends and I can say whatever I want attitude". You're beginning to become one of the most disrespectful CS employees I have every seen. Please quit being dismissive and disrespectful.

    -DrthCaedus


    P.S. Can anyone direct me to where I might lodge a formal complaint? go ahead and PM me.

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    Aside from the lowered coins in Banish, what else changed?

    Is there a list some where? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinz1111_6095251 View Post
    Aside from the lowered coins in Banish, what else changed?

    Is there a list some where? Thanks
    Look at http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...et-a-new-patch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Let's not start with this nonsense. You don't have data. We can have a productive discussion about game changes without resorting to absurdity.
    Comments like this make me think it's time for the forums to go the way of old yeller...

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    It's only a forum guys. And remember, Dawnseeker is moderating 3 games, not just Tynon.

    We ask him for communication. He gives it to us. Raw, straight up.
    Now you complain that he's too straightforward? Weird.

    I like it that he does it this way, rather than sugarcoating things or not saying anything at all.
    Any communication is better than no communication.
    Last edited by Peeta Melark; 02-13-2014 at 12:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    I'll figure out what is up with it, but my guess is that because banishes have gotten so big and damage has gone so high, players are just pulling in a lot more income from it than we ever intended. As a result players may be outpacing our development cycles. We are working as fast as we can on new content, but the reality is we are a small company with a small team and we can't just crank out new content every 2 weeks.
    So if your a small company you are not the fastest in producing new content as previously said in older posts?
    Now do we praise you for being the fastest or take pity cos your a small company who cant communicate to one another?
    Im so confused about your answers Dawn u say one thing then back pedal.
    Just be str8 with us please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBooMan View Post
    So if your a small company you are not the fastest in producing new content as previously said in older posts?
    Now do we praise you for being the fastest or take pity cos your a small company who cant communicate to one another?
    Im so confused about your answers Dawn u say one thing then back pedal.
    Just be str8 with us please.

    I was annoyed and being obnoxious...carry on
    Last edited by DrthCaedus; 02-13-2014 at 01:15 AM. Reason: no longer being pretentious

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    Ok guys I'm going to my mod thing because quite frankly I've seen enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peeta Melark View Post
    It's only a forum guys. And remember, Dawnseeker is moderating 3 games, not just Tynon.

    We ask him for communication. He gives it to us. Raw, straight up.
    Now you complain that he's too straightforward? Weird.

    I like it that he does it this way, rather than sugarcoating things or not saying anything at all.
    Any communication is better than no communication.
    ^True, it's not perfect but it's something. Would you rather you'd have no communication whatsoever? I know I'd rather this than that.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBooMan View Post
    So if your a small company you are not the fastest in producing new content as previously said in older posts?
    Now do we praise you for being the fastest or take pity cos your a small company who cant communicate to one another?
    Im so confused about your answers Dawn u say one thing then back pedal.
    Just be str8 with us please.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrthCaedus View Post
    I'm beginning to wonder if Dawn is just schizophrenic and actually ever single member of the Tynon Dev team.
    Would you rather I close this thread for trolling or keep it open so Dawnseeker can continue to bring you the information you crave? Carry on with remarks like that and I will.

    I will make this clear to everyone, I am getting tired of the insults being dished out by some members of this forum. You make complaints about how poorly Dawnseeker posts and then I see comments like those two quoted above. Who may I ask is in the wrong at least he (Dawn) doesn't make below the belt remarks about your mental health. If y'all want continue offering up your opinions, then some attitudes need to change sharpish.

    Don't get me wrong, I like every single one of you guys. However, I'll rather swap ideas and opinions then give out infractions and close threads. Savvy.

    Thanks

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