banish reward nerf?

[Deucalion]

Like I said before,

Did everyone really think uCool would allow players to get over 200m coins and credits each day for free?

Was everyone that naive to expect a 6.25b hp banish boss without receiving any sort of balancing nerf?

Come on. uCool would be like shooting themselves in the foot if the way things were continued w/o being kept in check.

How many players from servers 1-50 buy coin and credit chests anymore, since they can just get the same or more from banish?


Let's be real folks. It's not uCool's fault. It's just being real.

Yeah okay. It still doesn't justify anything. Fact is, this slows down the game for them, hooray, they have more time to make future content. Who is talking about a 6.25b boss? I don't expect endless rewards either. It just proves what we've been saying all along. They allow people all this stuff for months, then take it away and say it was wrong to begin with, that we never should have had it and it's our fault it's being taken away because, shame on us, we are playing the game too fast and gobbling up content faster than they can make it. It's the players fault, not the creators. We spend money, and get told we play it too fast and too much. And there is always some players out there that justify these actions, like you Herby. This entire issue is crazy. It's never going to get any better either. I'm done arguing about it at this point, and will stop now before I blow a gasket over forum trolls who do their best to hijack every thread they can.

[Riot]

The rewards in banish were not meant to "sustain" your upgrades.

Those were meant to be bonus coins, creds and rep to help players move further in the game.

It's only recently that the amounts won during Banish became so big that it was enough to "sustain" a high-level player's upgrades.

If you find that lacking, go buy some packages. Coin and Credit packages on Wednesdays. When was the last time you did that, if I may ask?


I like it how Tynon is dictating things now. I like the straight-up, in-your-face approach.

Play it like they want, or get the hell out.

I agree with Herby on this.

But there will most likely be a tougher banish when new content is introduced. Looking at the sirus and dragon scale sets and when they increase the talent and BS cap.. the damage will go up significantly.

Also Herby, is your main "Nape" ?

[cnn1_7545681]

The rewards in banish were not meant to "sustain" your upgrades.

Those were meant to be bonus coins, creds and rep to help players move further in the game.

It's only recently that the amounts won during Banish became so big that it was enough to "sustain" a high-level player's upgrades.

If you find that lacking, go buy some packages. Coin and Credit packages on Wednesdays. When was the last time you did that, if I may ask?


I like it how Tynon is dictating things now. I like the straight-up, in-your-face approach.

Play it like they want, or get the hell out.

Why spend money when the rules keep getting changed, just like the stock market, keep your money safe until you have rules to follow.

[mattp169]

Like I said before,

Did everyone really think uCool would allow players to get over 200m coins and credits each day for free?

Was everyone that naive to expect a 6.25b hp banish boss without receiving any sort of balancing nerf?

Come on. uCool would be like shooting themselves in the foot if the way things were continued w/o being kept in check.

How many players from servers 1-50 buy coin and credit chests anymore, since they can just get the same or more from banish?


Let's be real folks. It's not uCool's fault. It's just being real.

There's nothing to balance. If things kept going the way they were. If I were in a 6.25b banish id get 140-200m credits per banish. But if they also uncapped talents and bs I would need that much to keep upgrading in a timely manner and not have to wait 2 weeks to save up enough credits to eventually upgrade 1 item.

NO one buys chests because they have always been a rip off after the first few weeks of a server.

The way it is is like this so everyone gets perspective.
Even though Herby sounds like a brown nosing troll. He has valid points.
Tynon was released live way too soon with too many issues. They did not do a very good job estimating player growth. In short they messed up big time. But hind sight is 20/20. Now their solution to all the mistakes they feel were made in the past is to limit players and slow us down.
Many of us hate that solution. We would prefer more content instead of changes to current content. Many of us believe they are putting their energy in the wrong place to make this game successful and more fun. While a few like Herby agree with their methods and have no problem with it.

Now herby is entitled to his opinion as I am entitled to mine. I think Herby is wrong - He thinks I am wrong. Oh well thats life. But we all need to stop bashing each other for their opinions. And that includes you Herby for bashing an opinion held by alot of us.

There are many ways to handle the mistakes ucool made in calculating player progression, I just dont like the way they have chosen

[Herby]

Yeah okay. It still doesn't justify anything. Fact is, this slows down the game for them, hooray, they have more time to make future content. Who is talking about a 6.25b boss? I don't expect endless rewards either. It just proves what we've been saying all along. They allow people all this stuff for months, then take it away and say it was wrong to begin with, that we never should have had it and it's our fault it's being taken away because, shame on us, we are playing the game too fast and gobbling up content faster than they can make it. It's the players fault, not the creators. We spend money, and get told we play it too fast and too much. And there is always some players out there that justify these actions, like you Herby. This entire issue is crazy. It's never going to get any better either. I'm done arguing about it at this point, and will stop now before I blow a gasket over forum trolls who do their best to hijack every thread they can.

I agree that we do need new content.

BUT

I disagree that this latest change slows people down.

How can it slow you down if you're still gaining coins and credits, albeit at 80% of your previous rate?

If it stops you completely from gaining anything, THEN that's when it slows you down.

[Herby]

There's nothing to balance. If things kept going the way they were. If I were in a 6.25b banish id get 140-200m credits per banish. But if they also uncapped talents and bs I would need that much to keep upgrading in a timely manner and not have to wait 2 weeks to save up enough credits to eventually upgrade 1 item.

NO one buys chests because they have always been a rip off after the first few weeks of a server.

The way it is is like this so everyone gets perspective.
Even though Herby sounds like a brown nosing troll. He has valid points.
Tynon was released live way too soon with too many issues. They did not do a very good job estimating player growth. In short they messed up big time. But hind sight is 20/20. Now their solution to all the mistakes they feel were made in the past is to limit players and slow us down.
Many of us hate that solution. We would prefer more content instead of changes to current content. Many of us believe they are putting their energy in the wrong place to make this game successful and more fun. While a few like Herby agree with their methods and have no problem with it.

Now herby is entitled to his opinion as I am entitled to mine. I think Herby is wrong - He thinks I am wrong. Oh well thats life. But we all need to stop bashing each other for their opinions. And that includes you Herby for bashing an opinion held by alot of us.

There are many ways to handle the mistakes ucool made in calculating player progression, I just dont like the way they have chosen

Thank you for the recognition Matt, and the same is said from my side to yours. I do enjoy our "conversations".

One correction that you might have overlooked.

Even with the 6.25b hp banish, we still only have 100m coins and 40m credits maximum to share amongst all players of the same realm.

The new change actually encourages the top players to spread around the different realms, rather than just bunch up in one super guild.

[ExecDude]

The rewards in banish were not meant to "sustain" your upgrades.

Those were meant to be bonus coins, creds and rep to help players move further in the game.

It's only recently that the amounts won during Banish became so big that it was enough to "sustain" a high-level player's upgrades.

If you find that lacking, go buy some packages. Coin and Credit packages on Wednesdays. When was the last time you did that, if I may ask?


I like it how Tynon is dictating things now. I like the straight-up, in-your-face approach.

Play it like they want, or get the hell out.

If its not ment to sustain us then how do they expect us to play the game? I DO NOT buy coins and credit chest, haven't done so since the first week. There is a player on my server that buys about 1000-2000 gems worth of coin chest on a daily basis. There are coin and credit requirements in this game, if we cannot meet those requirements then what's the use of playing? If they want to reduce banish rewards then let them boost arena rewards to compensate.

[Herby]

If its not ment to sustain us then how do they expect us to play the game? I DO NOT buy coins and credit chest, haven't done so since the first week. There is a player on my server that buys about 1000-2000 gems worth of coin chest on a daily basis. There are coin and credit requirements in this game, if we cannot meet those requirements then what's the use of playing?

Let's not be vague here. Let's bring out the facts and crunch the numbers.

Can you give us a concrete example of the game's "sustainment" requirements?

Let's find out if what you're earning now (80% of the previous total) really cannot "sustain" your gameplay.

[Deucalion]

There's nothing to balance. If things kept going the way they were. If I were in a 6.25b banish id get 140-200m credits per banish. But if they also uncapped talents and bs I would need that much to keep upgrading in a timely manner and not have to wait 2 weeks to save up enough credits to eventually upgrade 1 item.

NO one buys chests because they have always been a rip off after the first few weeks of a server.

The way it is is like this so everyone gets perspective.
Even though Herby sounds like a brown nosing troll. He has valid points.
Tynon was released live way too soon with too many issues. They did not do a very good job estimating player growth. In short they messed up big time. But hind sight is 20/20. Now their solution to all the mistakes they feel were made in the past is to limit players and slow us down.
Many of us hate that solution. We would prefer more content instead of changes to current content. Many of us believe they are putting their energy in the wrong place to make this game successful and more fun. While a few like Herby agree with their methods and have no problem with it.

Now herby is entitled to his opinion as I am entitled to mine. I think Herby is wrong - He thinks I am wrong. Oh well thats life. But we all need to stop bashing each other for their opinions. And that includes you Herby for bashing an opinion held by alot of us.

There are many ways to handle the mistakes ucool made in calculating player progression, I just dont like the way they have chosen

I'm tired of being told to "Get Real" or "Be Real" or Being called stupid over my opinions here or having my opinions called ridiculous or stupid, and Herby is the leading cause of this. I respect his views, as most do. Yet, if he see's something someone is passionate about, he stomps on it and dismisses it like he works for Tynon and continues to do so quite often. There are others that do it, but he is the leader.
I have several valid topics here atm, but he has injected his negativity into each one, and I'm at the point where I'm going to get infracted because I'd like to call him a few choice names.
Your correct Matt. I think a little respect for other peoples points of view would go very far here.

[ExecDude]

Let's not be vague here. Let's bring out the facts and crunch the numbers.

Can you give us a concrete example of the game's "sustainment" requirements?

Let's find out if what you're earning now (80% of the previous total) really cannot "sustain" your gameplay.

Right now I am spending between 10-25mil per blacksmith upgrade. All my runes are lvl 10's or higher. I saved up coins for almost an entire week just to zero out today on blacksmith. I was making just enough from banish before to save for blacksmith and do runes. If they want to reduce banish rewards then they need to at least increase Arena or sailing rewards. You can't just take features and items away without balancing it out somewhere else and call it progress. Frankly, that's a stupid way to do business.