I'm looking for some tips on how to optimize damage against world bosses so I do better.
So far I get the Calvin Willbreaker Morale trick. I also use Shayd/Cianna for stun. Does anyone have some other tips.
I'm looking for some tips on how to optimize damage against world bosses so I do better.
So far I get the Calvin Willbreaker Morale trick. I also use Shayd/Cianna for stun. Does anyone have some other tips.
Well...lvl really only matters for the rune slots and only up to a point. Power is not terribly relevant.
So onto an actual tip. Back before I got a couple of lightbringer sets, I would typically set up my formation so that Cianna, Calvin, Shayd were the last 3 standing. An example of this would be:
empty-empty-empty
empty-damage dealer-damage dealer/thucy
shayd-calvin-cianna
I won't say that it is the best formation to use it because it probably isn't (I'm not going to do everything for you nor do I claim to be the best at banish).
Another thing is that you need some hit rating, a lot on shayd if possible. Then focus on increasing attack stats.
Banish is all about stunning, draining morale and hitting hard to a single target. This is not a direct answer to your question but more of the way I have developed my Banish formation.
I have found that Sha performs better that Queen B as far as stunning. I gave up on Cia a while back and have never tried Flavius in Banish. I also have not tried Percy vs Calvin, but Calvin hits harder so he is probably better to have as a morale drainer.
As far as the rest, use your hardest individual hitters. For example, Blood hits a single target harder that Adam, specially on Adam's skill attack.
I have full LB sets on all my heroes so they do skill attacks about every other round. Since defensive equipment is useless in Banish, you mat want to experiment with removing a chest guard or some other defensive equipment on heroes like Adam so that they do not use their skill attack that does less damage to a single target that their regular attack.
Once you have figured out what heroes are the hardest hitters then try this formation
0 - 0 - Sha
h1 - h2 - h4
0 - calvin - 0
sub h2
Where h1 is your hardest hitter and h4 your weakest. Unless Sha stuns on the first round, h4 never gets a chance to attack but the sub comes in and gets at least 1 round. In my situation with Calving draining morale every other round the Boss never gets to use his skill attack except on rare occasions where Sha fails to stun at just the right time. The heroes die in this order. h4, h3, h2, h1, Sha and finally Calvin.
Since you probably do not have a LB set of 6 to give to Calvin your results will be different that mine. In any case, I have been using this formation for several months and it has worked well for me.
Last edited by Andy; 02-17-2014 at 07:26 PM.
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What would be the best formation for Cerberus if you only had 1 Lightbringer's set, or 2 LB sets to use?
All other spirits are Ironheart and below.
Assume that all heroes except Pompey, Khan, Aphrodite and King Theseus have been recruited.
Please help
Cal Dmg -X-Originally Posted by Alethea
-X- -X- Sac
Bld Shd -X-
Dmg = Your second best single target damager. Depending on your runes/gear, this might be your main. A lot of people probably would use Lance
Sac = sacrificial lamb; I use my main for this, but that's because I have Pompey as my damager
Cal = Calvin with Partisan 5 or Righteous 3
Bld = Bloodstorm
Shd = Shayd with Preciseness as high as you can get
On my formation I do calvin rhize x
x x main hero
dawn destoryer x
bringer herja
its not much, but cerb and baal don't get to use there ''thousand strikes'' till I have only one hero left. But I do get a lot of hits in.
This what I use
0 - 0 - Sha
Blood - King T - Main
0 - Calvin - 0
Sub Adam
I am thinking of trying Lance or King H to see if I get them to hit harder than Adam.
In this formation if Sha does not stun on the first round the main dies without attacking. Calvin has a set of 6 LB and can drain him every other round so if Sha does a lot of stunning he never gets to kill every one. I am going to try to give Calvin a set of Justice to see if that makes a difference. Right now Blood has that for Banish.
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Essentially no one really answered you here, but the best answer is, at your level, and power, and assuming the hero choices you would have at that power, you should do something like this.
Give Righteousness 6 runes to the DMG in the order stated. Otherwise give partisan to the rest.
X X DMG #2
X X Decoy
Calvin - DMG #1 - DMG #3
Use this setup, forget stuns at this level and power because you dont have nearly enough morale to consistantly stun him and in the end itll actually lower your damage by causing him to 1000 at all of the wrong times. Consistent single target damage is the key. He also cant 1000 before round three, so keep that in mind.
Other option is like above stated, Put Shayd like this
X X Shayd
X X DMG #1
Calvin - DMG #2 DMG #3
That way Shayd will attack first, and if she stuns DMG #1 can morale...but if she doesnt, you dont get a morale off. Unless your shayd is hitting SUPER hard, I dont see how this can ever be worth it, since the odds are more likely than not that she WONT stun, so in essence you'll end up with less damage more often, than you will more damage.
Last edited by Legolass_8489846; 02-28-2014 at 08:17 AM.
I believe Legolas is right. At that point in time, you probably don't have the runes you need to allow Shayd to hit and stun the boss properly. She stopped frustrating me with preciseness level 9. If you use her, break will also help you.
Here is a formation I used on a test toon that was close to you in power. It worked well:
Empty, Main, Empty
EMpty, Empty, Queen P
Alexa, Medhivan, Calvin
Calvin needs to start at morale 50.
Alexa needs to start at morale 75 or 100.
Main and Queen P start at morale 100.
If you have a 6 set champion gear, put it on Alexa. I found that when she uses her skill attack properly, she's just as dangerous as a Lance that doesn't crit on Baal. Star her up, it seems to increase the chances of landing her skill attack twice. If you have another, the obvious choice is calvin.
Queen P is a good single damage dealer, which is why I included her. Don't replace her with CIanna. Whenever Cianna lands a stun on the first round, she screws up the entire dynamic of this setup. I also found that Medhivan worked better than Shayd, as he hits more often. Most of the time, SHayd was completely useless, and when she did hit, it did not make a huge difference in the end.
The point of this formation is to give Alexa enough time to skill attack twice.
Last edited by ChickenWing; 02-28-2014 at 08:43 AM.
Yup, I use Alexa, my main hero with driving blow, and Queen P. Calvin for morale down and one other person just to take the hit. Chicken is right, you need to perfectly set up your rotation to get the most damage out of your heroes, a stun from Cianna will only ruin that rotation. Anything but a constant stun from Shayd will ruin that formation. Theres a guy on our server who uses three non-Shayd mages and blows away everyone elses damage, with half the power. Shayd is overrated, that simple, until the rest of your heroes can also consistantly morale and stun.
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