Guide: Betting in Championship Warfare

[ChickenWing]

I was looking at data from yesterday's betting and found something interesting:

The basic value was 400, I was the only one to bet on the loser. I got 20 tickets.

The result multiplier brings my tickets to 40 (400x0.1=40).
This means that my tickets were affected by a popularity multiplier of 0.5 (40x0.5=20).

Thus, the popularity multiplier will not boost your tickets when you bet on the wrong person (which is logical when you think about it). I was affected by the same multiplier as the ones who bet on the winner (they got 200 tickets).

Another bet seems to contradict these data:

Basic Value was 400. We were 6 to bet on the loser and 30 bet on the winner. I got 89 tickets. The result multiplier brought my tickets down to 40. They then got multiplied by 2.225 to reach 89 tickets.

I don't understand.

[ChickenWing]

I think I understand! It seems to mean that the more people bet on the loser, the more tickets they get. So the better the multiplier is for those who won, the better it is for those who lost as well. It is not the same, however, because the tickets were augmented for the losers and diminished for the winners.

If everyone bets on the loser, they might get 200 tickets on the 400 basic value.

[IraTheSquire_1457591]

lol we haven't heard Tynon's position on this, have we?

Well, to be fair they did mention that is an oversight on their part, implying that is not intentional, so technically that can be regarded as a glitch and that is exploiting it.

But unless they actually do something about it that involves changes to how CSW is done (like when you can change formations etc) this will definitely keep on happening as it is rather hard to see on Tynon's side unless somebody is too explicit about it (as in keep on exploiting it once too often).

[Kruize]

I think I understand! It seems to mean that the more people bet on the loser, the more tickets they get. So the better the multiplier is for those who won, the better it is for those who lost as well. It is not the same, however, because the tickets were augmented for the losers and diminished for the winners.

If everyone bets on the loser, they might get 200 tickets on the 400 basic value.

No you still don't understand or you completely disregarded the post I gave you.

The other part I failed to mention you missed is that the medium return on a bet is 0.5 not 1 like you've assumed for a 50-50 split (Tynon has assumed everyone bets on the winner for the average).
This is because the the loser gets 100% of the bet and the winner of the match gets 200%. So standard payout is 50% of the wager. (Usually pays more to be in the match).

You still have the base value for a bet wrong. Its 50% of the shown information as I indicated in this post.
Grasp that first before you confuse yourself.

[Morgan le Fay]

Well, to be fair they did mention that is an oversight on their part, implying that is not intentional, so technically that can be regarded as a glitch and that is exploiting it.

But unless they actually do something about it that involves changes to how CSW is done (like when you can change formations etc) this will definitely keep on happening as it is rather hard to see on Tynon's side unless somebody is too explicit about it (as in keep on exploiting it once too often).

OK before we totally blow a gasket and this gets out of control again, there is no exploit or glitch. That match was 'fixed' so one could give another guildmate the CWF win. Dawnseeker was referring (I think) to the connotations of too much match fixing which could potentially lead to disgruntled players and a breakdown of the spirit of the competition.

EDIT: Sorry about the slight verve off-topic, just clearing up a misinterpretation.

[WickeD]

Bet stats 35 bets on Winner and 177 Bets on Loser (this numbers include the player bets also)
i got 2248 Tickets with out gems - warfare finals

[Yelsha]

Bet stats 35 bets on Winner and 177 Bets on Loser (this numbers include the player bets also)
i got 2248 Tickets with out gems - warfare finals

Not this time right?

The maximum possible ticket win without gems in the finals this time was 1400.

[WickeD]

Not this time right?

The maximum possible ticket win without gems in the finals this time was 1400.

This was on Asian Finals

[ChickenWing]

Bet stats 35 bets on Winner and 177 Bets on Loser (this numbers include the player bets also)
i got 2248 Tickets with out gems - warfare finals

You only got that? It's a 2.25 multiplier when 16.5% bet the same as you. I wonder if they dropped the maximum amount of tickets you can get, or if it really jumps high in the 1-5%.

[IraTheSquire_1457591]

OK before we totally blow a gasket and this gets out of control again, there is no exploit or glitch. That match was 'fixed' so one could give another guildmate the CWF win. Dawnseeker was referring (I think) to the connotations of too much match fixing which could potentially lead to disgruntled players and a breakdown of the spirit of the competition.

EDIT: Sorry about the slight verve off-topic, just clearing up a misinterpretation.

That match wasn't (as in, Yue's match), and I was not talking about that specific match.

I'm talking about the practice of fixing matches in such a manner so that the player's friends can get more tickets than they would otherwise (tell them that you're going to change formation right before the betting stops. Have them bet on the other player so that they will be in the minority because the power difference.). If Tynon believes that gaining benefits like this because some players know certain players and deceiving the rest of the whole community is an intended part of the game then I have nothing to say.