Servers 30 and 21 merger discussion

[perawind_8762856]

Server mergers are a step in the right direction, but there is one huge *but*. They don't address the real problem of city bonuses being so necessary that without them, many people in underpowered or losing guilds simply give up. I saw this in server 116 recently. Everyone left a guild after they lost a couple of important guild wars battles, and they joined the other two guilds that won the battles.
Servers die because of the cities imo. Many top guilds know this and strive to create a balance of power to keep the game competitive and to prevent a dominant guild.

But a band aid is better than no aid imo. So bring on the server mergers.

[mattp169]

Server mergers are a step in the right direction, but there is one huge *but*. They don't address the real problem of city bonuses being so necessary that without them, many people in underpowered or losing guilds simply give up. I saw this in server 116 recently. Everyone left a guild after they lost a couple of important guild wars battles, and they joined the other two guilds that won the battles.
Servers die because of the cities imo.

But a band aid is better than no aid imo. So bring on the server mergers.

Someone who gets it. - its why i keep saying change GWF and make the city buffs part of the guild level.

[QueenValkyrie_1966475]

From my understanding of a MERGER, IF you have 2 entities and MERGE them, that creates ONE Server, to me, the other server should be deleted or removed. A notice that the server has been moved would help eliminate confusion or TYNON sanctioned alts

[karatekristopher_1399892]

do you think this will ever happen to other servers if it works out?

[mattp169]

You are absolutely 100% correct. Hopefully the mergers will help this issue. It should as all buffs from the super guild on each server are going to be wiped and they lose all their cities.

Nope
just means another super guild gets formed or perhaps its the same super guild form one of the other servers,and it controls all cities

the way the city buffs and guilds are setup on all servers will lead to one guild running things.

[Jewels]

Their biggest determining factor has always been server population and consistent play. They look at daily logs, spending patterns, etc. but the biggest factor is population not spending. I look for about 30-40 servers to be merged.

Playing on s-71 - if this is the criteria thinking it will be a long time til we have a merge. I've been using the number of players who participate in Heavens Palace as my guide to how many are active on our server (76 this last weekend) We have 40 members on the books in our guild, but some work nights/weekends. And have about 4-5 who have been off for a long period of time (altho have been seeing people come back because of the many game changes)

Currently we are the dominate guild with the most cities (and active members)

Guess my question is: What are the criteria for tynon to merge a server? less than 10 actives? less than 50 on a Server? just a loss in revenue?

Also wanted to comment on mattp and others posts about gw's being a huge reason for people leaving servers/guilds etc. YES, I do believe many on our server have left cause they felt they weren't going to progress on this server with 1 guild being dominate and getting the buffs - i agree its not balanced effectively. I like the idea of the buffs being for guild level and a alternate game/event to replace guild wars.

[DrthCaedus]

Playing on s-71 - if this is the criteria thinking it will be a long time til we have a merge. I've been using the number of players who participate in Heavens Palace as my guide to how many are active on our server (76 this last weekend) We have 40 members on the books in our guild, but some work nights/weekends. And have about 4-5 who have been off for a long period of time (altho have been seeing people come back because of the many game changes)

Currently we are the dominate guild with the most cities (and active members)

Guess my question is: What are the criteria for tynon to merge a server? less than 10 actives? less than 50 on a Server? just a loss in revenue?

Also wanted to comment on mattp and others posts about gw's being a huge reason for people leaving servers/guilds etc. YES, I do believe many on our server have left cause they felt they weren't going to progress on this server with 1 guild being dominate and getting the buffs - i agree its not balanced effectively. I like the idea of the buffs being for guild level and a alternate game/event to replace guild wars.

I don't know what their bottom line is going to be for merging. I haven't looked at 21 or 30 and so I can't judge their activity levels. I would assume it would be something similar to s-69. We have around 5 people for WB events in my realm and one dominating guild on the server with like 30 active people, so like 45 total active people. I think that's enough to warrant a merge lol.

[WickeD]

I don't know what their bottom line is going to be for merging. I haven't looked at 21 or 30 and so I can't judge their activity levels. I would assume it would be something similar to s-69. We have around 5 people for WB events in my realm and one dominating guild on the server with like 30 active people, so like 45 total active people. I think that's enough to warrant a merge lol.

OMG OMG 45 active people , you must join server 15, you will see 10 active people

[Jewels]

we are still getting in our realm up to 20ish on a WB (not always sometimes low as 9) with the other 2 realms also killing their boss - so guessing we'll be way down the line for a merger soon.

Was there any total of actives from 21 and 30 that anyone posted? just curious

[mattp169]

Playing on s-71 - if this is the criteria thinking it will be a long time til we have a merge. I've been using the number of players who participate in Heavens Palace as my guide to how many are active on our server (76 this last weekend) We have 40 members on the books in our guild, but some work nights/weekends. And have about 4-5 who have been off for a long period of time (altho have been seeing people come back because of the many game changes)

Currently we are the dominate guild with the most cities (and active members)

Guess my question is: What are the criteria for tynon to merge a server? less than 10 actives? less than 50 on a Server? just a loss in revenue?

Also wanted to comment on mattp and others posts about gw's being a huge reason for people leaving servers/guilds etc. YES, I do believe many on our server have left cause they felt they weren't going to progress on this server with 1 guild being dominate and getting the buffs - i agree its not balanced effectively. I like the idea of the buffs being for guild level and a alternate game/event to replace guild wars.

ANd there we go another person who gets it.
Now if the devs would get it