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    Maria and GW/Ragnarok

    This is a pheonomenon that mostly just happens to the newer servers, but here is what happens:

    Guild War
    1 Player 8 million power (with Maria)
    vs
    35 Players, 5+ of which are 5 million power.

    8 million power player deploys B, invades A. Opposing guild defends A.
    Result:
    8 million power player defeats all 35 players, remaining health 98%.

    How does this happen? We see it in Ragnarok all the time.
    8 million (with Maria) vs 5 million:
    -- Ahmose (tank) ends up damaged, nearly dead at 25% health.
    -- Next round he faces a low-power player, heals back to 99% health.
    -- Repeat infinitum.

    Now there is a very simple programming fix to this. It's the same programming that Dawn of Darkness had with it's Battle Royale (similar to Ragnarok). It is:
    -- After a battle takes place, the resulting health points of each character becomes the new maximum hit points.
    This means that if you win a battle and your Ahmose is damaged down to 20,000 HP, then his new HP is 20,000.
    It means that you cannot fight someone to heal, but instead go to a Base or Fort to heal. (Which is the purpose of the Base / Fort).
    This means that one person should probably think twice before taking on 35+ people half his size.
    This means that entire guilds cannot be "solo'ed" easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020 View Post
    Now there is a very simple programming fix to this. It's the same programming that Dawn of Darkness had with it's Battle Royale (similar to Ragnarok). It is:
    -- After a battle takes place, the resulting health points of each character becomes the new maximum hit points.
    This means that if you win a battle and your Ahmose is damaged down to 20,000 HP, then his new HP is 20,000.
    It means that you cannot fight someone to heal, but instead go to a Base or Fort to heal. (Which is the purpose of the Base / Fort).
    This means that one person should probably think twice before taking on 35+ people half his size.
    This means that entire guilds cannot be "solo'ed" easily.

    ^^^ This. One player can kill 30 people of slightly less power because of Maria's heals in between fights on GW. I 100% agree with your change suggestion.

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    If that is the route that they want to go, wouldn't be easier to just ban maria from gw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heathermh1998_32327 View Post
    If that is the route that they want to go, wouldn't be easier to just ban maria from gw?
    Sure. Then ban her from CWF, HR and quests also. We can just look at her and pretend to use her. Maybe just dress her up and have tea.

    Maria is not the perfect hero and loses much of her use as a player progresses in power. Watch and see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deucalion View Post
    Sure. Then ban her from CWF, HR and quests also. We can just look at her and pretend to use her. Maybe just dress her up and have tea.

    Maria is not the perfect hero and loses much of her use as a player progresses in power. Watch and see.
    I don't think worded it right, im not wanting them to bane Maria.

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    Just remove all heroes from the game, that way we have nothing to bitch about, just run around with main heroes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBooMan View Post
    Just remove all heroes from the game, that way we have nothing to bitch about, just run around with main heroes.
    Blademaster gets 20 dodge...pretty OP if you ask me. Please nerf the base stats as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate_1360826 View Post
    Blademaster gets 20 dodge...pretty OP if you ask me. Please nerf the base stats as well.
    LMAO!!
    Oh well i did try with a solution.
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    Simple solution: everyone else on your server can stop sucking. hence eliminating the need to complain about it on the forums. Other people have the option of getting Maria too, but the reason they are getting roflstomped isn't due to Maria, its just that either they suck or the 8M player spent a lot more.

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    Maria is pretty OP for low powered.
    This changes when they gain more Mag attack.
    Not many higher powered use her on the older servers.
    I like the solution offered where she cannot heal full hp in the next fight.
    Another solution could be to add morale to her and relate healing power to that amount to balance it out a bit more.

    GW has always been a bit odd with this however and the same goes with sails.
    The number in power does not do much against a greater power, it is like a giant walking in to an army of mice.
    The only way to help this is to have someone with similar power in your team.

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