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    Quote Originally Posted by trahevony_4745091 View Post
    if they start messing with her heal rate, whats to say this wont also be the case in labs too? i dunno about anyone else but i'd be buggered without her healing my guys. i say leave it as it is - better the devil you know so to speak
    A lot of players had to do everything without her being present.
    It is very much possible to do so.

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    Leave Maria as it is. She's not OP.

    The TS only has a better player on his server. That's the main problem. Nothing any of us can fix.

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    I think those on older servers with high mag attack can't see the problem she is causing.
    For established players she is not OP.
    For new players on new servers, she is.

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    There is a good discussion on Maria here http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?5433-Maria-Issues
    The opinions expressed on this post are my own as a player, not as a Moderator.

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    Younger servers have some advantages and some disadvantages. Boohoo, Maria can cause an entire army to be defeated by one person? Then maybe that army wasn't worthy of the win in the 1st place. Yes, she do help a lot more in younger servers than older ones, but each has their own battles and if the other team have maria aswell, then what? Their maria wasn't as good as this 1 person's? Leave maria as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deucalion View Post
    Sure. Then ban her from CWF, HR and quests also. We can just look at her and pretend to use her. Maybe just dress her up and have tea.

    Maria is not the perfect hero and loses much of her use as a player progresses in power. Watch and see.
    I don't think worded it right, im not wanting them to bane Maria.

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    The diversion from an original issue onto another is known as a Red Herring (Fallacy). If you want to discuss Maria, you can do it on the other thread that Andy kindly linked for us.

    This issue is regarding the health-management (programming) after one's battles. It's a simple code fix that other games implement, to prevent someone from gaining more hit points than they started in the battle.

    Please stick to the topic. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020 View Post
    This is a pheonomenon that mostly just happens to the newer servers, but here is what happens:

    Guild War
    1 Player 8 million power (with Maria)
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    35 Players, 5+ of which are 5 million power.
    so the other 35 players were to cheap to buy maria pack? all 35?

    and well maria is powerfull for lower power and i think the other 35 player really need to get there act together

    and the 1 player would still lose dura points.. making that person alot weaker..

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    Cuddles, let me break it to you. Without Maria, that player would still slaughter all 35 of you because 1) he either coined way more than anyone else, in which case there is nothing anyone can do about it, since if coining was banned then we wouldn't have this game to play or 2) those 35 just suck, in which case they need to step it up. I am sure some of those 35 have Maria too, so Maria is not the reason he is roflstomping all over your weak guild.

    People like you will always complain. Later on, when he has full LB sets, you are going to ask for, "LB 6-sets to not have an effect in Rag or GW." Then once he has Khan, you are going to ask for, "Khan cannot heal in GW or Rag."

    The issue isn't that Maria, LB sets, or Khan are OP. So stop complaining.

    When I had Maria, I couldn't defeat entire guilds, while on the other hand, using Herja and LB sets I have defeated an entire guild in a battle before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelsha View Post
    Cuddles, let me break it to you. Without Maria, that player would still slaughter all 35 of you because
    This is baseless. Without maria, you get damage from each fight and there will be a limit to how many you can take... you would need to overpower the entire group to win. With maria, you only need to overpower each individual...

    Quote Originally Posted by Yelsha View Post
    I am sure some of those 35 have Maria too, so Maria is not the reason he is roflstomping all over your weak guild.
    Having maria doesn't help you much if you are weaker than your opponent. They are used to reduce/remove any damage from weaker opponents.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yelsha View Post
    When I had Maria, I couldn't defeat entire guilds, while on the other hand, using Herja and LB sets I have defeated an entire guild in a battle before.
    Just because you can't use something doesn't mean other people can't. I see logic rather than strawman arguments all the time.
    .........................

    You are right people will always complain though. Think this is how khan got nerfed, he used to be able to sit behind a tank and get several times his max hp for tougher fights in GW.

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