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    My experiment for this weekend was designed to see if the amount of power in the formation would affect what formation was used. In other words, if it was the last winning formation of the most powerful winning formation. Unfortunately a player attacked both the 1st and 2nd place after they were set up and they ended up in HP at full power. I will try again next week.
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    Ok heres the deal

    there is a time on friday when the game takes a snap shot of arena

    at that time whatever the last formation used in arena by the players chosen is what goes in palace

    what that magical time is NO ONE KNOWS For certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    Ok heres the deal

    there is a time on friday when the game takes a snap shot of arena

    at that time whatever the last formation used in arena by the players chosen is what goes in palace

    what that magical time is NO ONE KNOWS For certain.
    My experiment last week shows that at least it is the last formation where the attack was won, and not just the last formation. The last formation of the player was a loss and the one that ended up in HP was the win before that. People are making assumptions without testing because in most cases the last formation is a win. That is why I am doing the testing, to see how it actually works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    My experiment last week shows that at least it is the last formation where the attack was won, and not just the last formation. The last formation of the player was a loss and the one that ended up in HP was the win before that. People are making assumptions without testing because in most cases the last formation is a win. That is why I am doing the testing, to see how it actually works.
    the players chosen will almost always have a win as their last fight in arena. thast how they got to their spots. now granted 1 could attack 2 for rep or whatever. so you have a point, but you guys are really over analyzing this

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    the players chosen will almost always have a win as their last fight in arena. thast how they got to their spots. now granted 1 could attack 2 for rep or whatever. so you have a point, but you guys are really over analyzing this
    The reason I am doing the experiments is so that when things go wrong, like it id for us this week, I know what the easiest way to fix it is. Our players were attacked and won while in full power. What can we do short of bringing them down and putting two other players up?

    If it is the last fight, then all they have to do is power down and hit some one.
    If it is the last winning fight, then they have to hit some one that is powered down more that they are.
    If it is the the most powerful win since they went up, then there is no choice but to bring them down.

    If it is in fact the strongest win (and I have not proven this yet) then there is the issue of if the player goes up on Friday before Baal, gets hit while in full power and comes down some time before GW and goes back up powered down, will the formation used be the one that was used on the second time it went up (powered down) of will it be the most powerful winn for the day (when he was hit after going up the first time). If it is the former then all we need to do is bring him down and then back up, but if it is the other one, then we need to find a different player to put up.

    Based on the results of the above then I will do some more testing to see if it is feasible for a player that is in 1st or 2nd not to have to come down at all. It may be that all that needs to be done is to have a powered down win as the last fight. If that is the case, then it will make it a lot easier so set things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    The reason I am doing the experiments is so that when things go wrong, like it id for us this week, I know what the easiest way to fix it is. Our players were attacked and won while in full power. What can we do short of bringing them down and putting two other players up?

    If it is the last fight, then all they have to do is power down and hit some one.
    If it is the last winning fight, then they have to hit some one that is powered down more that they are.
    If it is the the most powerful win since they went up, then there is no choice but to bring them down.

    If it is in fact the strongest win (and I have not proven this yet) then there is the issue of if the player goes up on Friday before Baal, gets hit while in full power and comes down some time before GW and goes back up powered down, will the formation used be the one that was used on the second time it went up (powered down) of will it be the most powerful winn for the day (when he was hit after going up the first time). If it is the former then all we need to do is bring him down and then back up, but if it is the other one, then we need to find a different player to put up.

    Based on the results of the above then I will do some more testing to see if it is feasible for a player that is in 1st or 2nd not to have to come down at all. It may be that all that needs to be done is to have a powered down win as the last fight. If that is the case, then it will make it a lot easier so set things up.
    seriously wait till baal
    after baal set it up
    then send out a gm not to attack the players who are going in hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    seriously wait till baal
    after baal set it up
    then send out a gm not to attack the players who are going in hp.
    We do that. But like I said, the ultimate goal is to see if the top two player that normally sits on 1st and 2nd all week can just power down, hit some one that is also powered down and win, and power back up. This will make setting up a lot easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    We do that. But like I said, the ultimate goal is to see if the top two player that normally sits on 1st and 2nd all week can just power down, hit some one that is also powered down and win, and power back up. This will make setting up a lot easier.
    it is easy
    have 1 strip to nothing have 2 strip to just what is need too beat 1 now
    2 attacks 1 and wins
    1 who is now 2 adds in some runes and armor - just enough to beat 2 who is now 1
    DONE
    send out gm
    have a good day
    like I said you over complicating this
    and yes I know this works Ive done it just to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    it is easy
    have 1 strip to nothing have 2 strip to just what is need too beat 1 now
    2 attacks 1 and wins
    1 who is now 2 adds in some runes and armor - just enough to beat 2 who is now 1
    DONE
    send out gm
    have a good day
    like I said you over complicating this
    and yes I know this works Ive done it just to see
    I had never thought of doing it that way. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    you are all socialists right?
    Lets keep politics out of the discussion when we are discussing game mechanics.

    Personally, I have never seen a fully powered down HP yet, simply because its always someone that doesn't know how to power down properly anyways.

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