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    So since I have experience with Aphro, I can tell you she is the most deadliest mage of them all. She hits about 2x as hard as Shayd if not more. She comes with 40 +hit so she does not miss much. She will 1 shot most players except the very top with massive health... I have her at 17 stars and working on her staff to 99 (only 75 atm). In Banish, shes does more dmg per hit than any of my class except pompey (at the very early hits) and De Luc (using herja). Get a few + hit saints on her and she will have close to or over 300+hit. She will keep every banish stunned for a while.

    Now back to Mulan. I used Mulan extensively early on and concluded she is a very nice mage, but not quite the same par with King Thesus due to his ability to Crit. If KT did not crit as much, Mulan would be a better choice IMO. Keep in mind, Mulan has 30% Phy resistance and can take a good amount of beating.

    I have never been a fan of Rhize for 3 main reasons. 1. He has no innate built in resistance such as phy or magic reduction. 2. His only bonus is 30 block which is pretty useless at the highest levels when you start to face people with lvl 12 break and resilience runes, 3. Rhize does not crit nearly enough to come close to beating King T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinz1111_6095251 View Post
    So since I have experience with Aphro, I can tell you she is the most deadliest mage of them all. She hits about 2x as hard as Shayd if not more. She comes with 40 +hit so she does not miss much. She will 1 shot most players except the very top with massive health... I have her at 17 stars and working on her staff to 99 (only 75 atm). In Banish, shes does more dmg per hit than any of my class except pompey (at the very early hits) and De Luc (using herja). Get a few + hit saints on her and she will have close to or over 300+hit. She will keep every banish stunned for a while.

    Now back to Mulan. I used Mulan extensively early on and concluded she is a very nice mage, but not quite the same par with King Thesus due to his ability to Crit. If KT did not crit as much, Mulan would be a better choice IMO. Keep in mind, Mulan has 30% Phy resistance and can take a good amount of beating.

    I have never been a fan of Rhize for 3 main reasons. 1. He has no innate built in resistance such as phy or magic reduction. 2. His only bonus is 30 block which is pretty useless at the highest levels when you start to face people with lvl 12 break and resilience runes, 3. Rhize does not crit nearly enough to come close to beating King T.
    Sssh. Don't praise her so much.

    They might nerf her. lol.
    Last edited by Herby; 02-28-2014 at 05:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Lol

    I remember a thread where I said that Queen Bryn will become a staple in CWF. A lot of people ridiculed me, but look at Queen Bryn now.

    I remember saying Maria is going to be a game-breaker for CWF. A lot of people still don't believe me and say Maria sucks

    The second round of my first battle in CWF last night, I lost to a player using Maria. She was able to heal most of that players heroes twice fully, and a few others even more. I rearranged form to make up for this, but she still won that one round with some wiggle room. That was the only Maria I have seen in CWF so far that was able to make a difference. I can see Maria being in CWF for a long time to come, though she and bryn in my humble opinion are like a shot in the dark. There is little consistency with them both and seems like it would have to be a last ditch effort for me to use them in CWF, unless they could somehow be "aimed".

    Quote Originally Posted by skinz1111_6095251 View Post
    So since I have experience with Aphro, I can tell you she is the most deadliest mage of them all. She hits about 2x as hard as Shayd if not more. She comes with 40 +hit so she does not miss much. She will 1 shot most players except the very top with massive health... I have her at 17 stars and working on her staff to 99 (only 75 atm). In Banish, shes does more dmg per hit than any of my class except pompey (at the very early hits) and De Luc (using herja). Get a few + hit saints on her and she will have close to or over 300+hit. She will keep every banish stunned for a while.

    Now back to Mulan. I used Mulan extensively early on and concluded she is a very nice mage, but not quite the same par with King Thesus due to his ability to Crit. If KT did not crit as much, Mulan would be a better choice IMO. Keep in mind, Mulan has 30% Phy resistance and can take a good amount of beating.

    I have never been a fan of Rhize for 3 main reasons. 1. He has no innate built in resistance such as phy or magic reduction. 2. His only bonus is 30 block which is pretty useless at the highest levels when you start to face people with lvl 12 break and resilience runes, 3. Rhize does not crit nearly enough to come close to beating King T.
    Well, we have something to look forward too with Aphrodite then, thank you for your input


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Sssh. Don't praise her so much.

    They might nerf her. lol.
    TBH. For the fact that by the time you get her with 3.8 Million REP... She doesn't do enough. She is only a single target hero. This is a pretty big disadvantage in CWF. She also does not STUN every time she hits if the opponent has high def skills even when she does the dmg. Now if they made it so she stuns every time she hits, that would be nice. She also does miss. When she does it is like the highest hero adding NO value in the line up for that round. Keep in mind at the very top, you are lucky if you get 2 rounds in the fight. So she is no where near over powered and they would be nuts to even think of nerfing her. There is nothing to nerf. I would say that in terms of hits she land, she is exactly like Shayd, but with a little more built in 40 + hit which helps her slightly. Nothing to go crazy over. The damage is double Shayd, but that is to be expected, since on mages, the + Skill attack on the spirit has no effect. The Spirit is 1/2 the value for mages as it is for melee classes. Not fair and should add "+Magic Skill Attack"

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinz1111_6095251 View Post
    TBH. For the fact that by the time you get her with 3.8 Million REP... She doesn't do enough. She is only a single target hero. This is a pretty big disadvantage in CWF. She also does not STUN every time she hits if the opponent has high def skills even when she does the dmg. Now if they made it so she stuns every time she hits, that would be nice. She also does miss. When she does it is like the highest hero adding NO value in the line up for that round. Keep in mind at the very top, you are lucky if you get 2 rounds in the fight. So she is no where near over powered and they would be nuts to even think of nerfing her. There is nothing to nerf. I would say that in terms of hits she land, she is exactly like Shayd, but with a little more built in 40 + hit which helps her slightly. Nothing to go crazy over. The damage is double Shayd, but that is to be expected, since on mages, the + Skill attack on the spirit has no effect. The Spirit is 1/2 the value for mages as it is for melee classes. Not fair and should add "+Magic Skill Attack"
    I believe one of the reasons for mages is to give you the ability to have a decent damage dealer/support/control hero without the need for expensive spirits, both in terms of coins, gems, time, and lab runs/tokens. That is partially one of the reasons that when fully geared out and runed out, they are inferior to physical heroes. However, due to the fact they slide by with less runes and lower spirits, they are a much more inexpensive investment than physical heroes.

    So think of mages as requiring less initial investment to be effective, but with a low return on investment later on. To make a mage effective, all you need is to pump the staff level, add rubies, and level up intenseness, preciseness, and infallibility/reliability. On the other hand, physical heroes require both godly swords and spirits, sapphires and obsidians, and ideally all 3 of the 100-frag runes as well as advantage in addition to preciseness to be fully effective. If you have the spirits and runes, I'd say a physical hero is nearly always a better choice in terms of direct combat.

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    One thing that every one appears forgets about is that Mage attacks do not increase Morale on the opponent. That is also an advantage of Mages early in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    One thing that every one appears forgets about is that Mage attacks do not increase Morale on the opponent. That is also an advantage of Mages early in the game.
    Yes, mages have the benefit of starting with this advantage.

    Later on though, stronger physical heroes (Blood, Pompey, etc) also have this advantage and also with LB+ 6-sets and Herja, other physical heroes will not lead to morale gain in PVE and will only lead to morale gain at most 1/2 the time in PVP.

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    well i canot say much about mulan but she is my target hero for next CW not this one as now iam trying no destroy herja

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    For me, mages have always been my goto for damage because I only ever get defensive sancts on my skill attack heroes (2 gold hps, 2 gold magic defense, 1 gold phys, 1 purple phys def, 1 purple skill def on cinnia for examaple). Given this, maria was an obvious pickup since i relied so much on tanking it out anyways. With adamanti actually getting a couple offense this is changing a bit for me but still useful. I might pickup mulan at some point once I phase out herja (working on beating the LB bossses right now).

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    Mulan = Junk. She has no place in pvp unless you are in the power range of 14-20m.

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