What a Ripoff

[Swagmaster_556383]

When I began playing this game, I shelled out quite a bit of money for extra perks. In general, the game is pretty cool and I don't mind investing in something I like. But after playing for a month or so, I began to see just how much of a ripoff this game really is. Consider boosts for instance. Gem boosts almost always work, but credit boosts fail around 95% of the time. Then there is the Heavenly Tavern; when a decent card comes up, it will almost never be where you click, regardless where you click. For instance, when you click on the card that held the hero, the hero will always be the next card over; but when you click the card next to where you saw the hero, the hero card will be exactly where you saw it. This is so predictable it's funny. The game makers will tell you this is random, but I took the liberty of running the numbers through a statistics program and the odds of the cards falling the way they fall on a randomly generated system is 0:1; in other words, it would never happen.

Everything in this game is designed to force players to spend real money. Were it simply a matter of offering extra perks for money, this wouldn't be a bad thing; most online games do this and they make a pretty hefty profit out of it, so long as the game is enjoyable. But when a game deliberately sabotages the in-game efforts of non paying members in an attempt to force them to pay money just to enjoy the game, it amounts to extortion. As a web and game developer, I find this appalling and I refuse to spend money on a sham (a note to Tynon admins: if you look at my account, you will see that I stopped spending money on your game months ago; prior to that, I spent quite a bit. You do the math).

My suggestion to anyone reading this would be to leave Tynon alone. The game developers are greedy and manipulative and completely out of line. They consider you, the player, too stupid to realize you are being screwed. But given their tendency to lie and manipulate, I doubt my post will stay live on here for long...

[cnn1_7545681]

it's a money game, simple as that, only the spenders are the top players. I however still like the game even though I've stopped spending to. However the cap on talents and blacksmith give all the players like us a chance to catch up, spenders aren't happy about that one bit.

[Andy]

When I began playing this game, I shelled out quite a bit of money for extra perks. In general, the game is pretty cool and I don't mind investing in something I like. But after playing for a month or so, I began to see just how much of a ripoff this game really is. Consider boosts for instance. Gem boosts almost always work, but credit boosts fail around 95% of the time. Then there is the Heavenly Tavern; when a decent card comes up, it will almost never be where you click, regardless where you click. For instance, when you click on the card that held the hero, the hero will always be the next card over; but when you click the card next to where you saw the hero, the hero card will be exactly where you saw it. This is so predictable it's funny. The game makers will tell you this is random, but I took the liberty of running the numbers through a statistics program and the odds of the cards falling the way they fall on a randomly generated system is 0:1; in other words, it would never happen.

Everything in this game is designed to force players to spend real money. Were it simply a matter of offering extra perks for money, this wouldn't be a bad thing; most online games do this and they make a pretty hefty profit out of it, so long as the game is enjoyable. But when a game deliberately sabotages the in-game efforts of non paying members in an attempt to force them to pay money just to enjoy the game, it amounts to extortion. As a web and game developer, I find this appalling and I refuse to spend money on a sham (a note to Tynon admins: if you look at my account, you will see that I stopped spending money on your game months ago; prior to that, I spent quite a bit. You do the math).

My suggestion to anyone reading this would be to leave Tynon alone. The game developers are greedy and manipulative and completely out of line. They consider you, the player, too stupid to realize you are being screwed. But given their tendency to lie and manipulate, I doubt my post will stay live on here for long...

Are you aware that the card that appears when you click was determined before the 5 cards are displayed and that it does not makes difference where you click on? I do not know what the algorithm the game used to select the 5 cards that are displayed (other that the spirits you earn, of course) but it uses the offs for getting a Gold or a Purple on every roll and then picks cards to display that will support those odds. I assume that the determination to display a Gold or a Purple is done in a similar manner (the odds of getting spirits). What you call manipulation is really the way that the graphic representation of the result calculated by the odds.

This is true for every other place in the fame where a card is picked.

[Riot]

Are you aware that the card that appears when you click was determined before the 5 cards are displayed and that it does not makes difference where you click on? I do not know what the algorithm the game used to select the 5 cards that are displayed (other that the spirits you earn, of course) but it uses the offs for getting a Gold or a Purple on every roll and then picks cards to display that will support those odds. I assume that the determination to display a Gold or a Purple is done in a similar manner (the odds of getting spirits). What you call manipulation is really the way that the graphic representation of the result calculated by the odds.

This is true for every other place in the fame where a card is picked.

It would have been nice to know this for new players so they are not tricked into clicking ot using gems to click cards in taveryn if there is no need to flip an additional cards. I been burned a lot by this. It is BS and they really need to fix it so that it truly is a randomized roll

[Andy]

It is documented in the wiki and there have been several treads where it has been discussed. Here are two of them

http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...=tavern+rigged
http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...=tavern+rigged

[Deb_5612793]

you are 100% right this is shameful the way they do us players ,i to have stopped spending my money on this and will not again , i cant even play my gamenow , i cant do any attacks at all they wont load , no sailing for me now , i am done

[Morgan le Fay]

It's this simple, what you've experienced is the same as everyone else. No one is out to get or rip you off. What you see is what you get.

If I get one more defence sanct on my Adamanti I swear I'm going to scream lol. However, that's the unlucky hand I've been dealt. See? You aren't alone.

Herby, do you have a spare tinfoil hat? I think I might need it.

[Joker]

It would have been nice to know this for new players so they are not tricked into clicking ot using gems to click cards in taveryn if there is no need to flip an additional cards. I been burned a lot by this. It is BS and they really need to fix it so that it truly is a randomized roll

people doing addintional flips have a chance of getting a gold or a purple card there is no BS in that. the roll is fine the way it is, of oyu didn't get cards in the 2nd or 3rd pick that was your bad luck.

[Andy]

people doing addintional flips have a chance of getting a gold or a purple card there is no BS in that. the roll is fine the way it is, of oyu didn't get cards in the 2nd or 3rd pick that was your bad luck.

I only do a 2nd flip if there at least 3 heroes that I want on the 5 cards. The only time I do a 3rd click is under the same situation and the 2nd click did not give me one of the three I want, since I am assured to get one of them.

[Dawnseeker]

When I began playing this game, I shelled out quite a bit of money for extra perks. In general, the game is pretty cool and I don't mind investing in something I like. But after playing for a month or so, I began to see just how much of a ripoff this game really is. Consider boosts for instance. Gem boosts almost always work, but credit boosts fail around 95% of the time. Then there is the Heavenly Tavern; when a decent card comes up, it will almost never be where you click, regardless where you click. For instance, when you click on the card that held the hero, the hero will always be the next card over; but when you click the card next to where you saw the hero, the hero card will be exactly where you saw it. This is so predictable it's funny. The game makers will tell you this is random, but I took the liberty of running the numbers through a statistics program and the odds of the cards falling the way they fall on a randomly generated system is 0:1; in other words, it would never happen.

Everything in this game is designed to force players to spend real money. Were it simply a matter of offering extra perks for money, this wouldn't be a bad thing; most online games do this and they make a pretty hefty profit out of it, so long as the game is enjoyable. But when a game deliberately sabotages the in-game efforts of non paying members in an attempt to force them to pay money just to enjoy the game, it amounts to extortion. As a web and game developer, I find this appalling and I refuse to spend money on a sham (a note to Tynon admins: if you look at my account, you will see that I stopped spending money on your game months ago; prior to that, I spent quite a bit. You do the math).

My suggestion to anyone reading this would be to leave Tynon alone. The game developers are greedy and manipulative and completely out of line. They consider you, the player, too stupid to realize you are being screwed. But given their tendency to lie and manipulate, I doubt my post will stay live on here for long...

Gem Boosts have a very high success rate, because we don't want people spending Gems and having them fail. Credit Boosts do not have anywhere close to a 95% fail rate, and that is absurd. The success rate is at least 10x higher than that. And using it is optional. If you want to offer legitimate criticism of the game, or offer suggestions, please do so. But don't try to make things look bad to get your point across.