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    If you compare sports to this game you all forgetting players also get old and cannot play anymore. So this is the same players get a handicap with their wins kind of getting older and like I said earlier the person who has the most crowns is obvoulsy the best player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrthCaedus View Post
    this analogy would make sense only if you included this. Every time Tiger or Phil won a championship they would also be granted an extra 50 yards on drives, an additional stroke handicap per hole, 2 mulligans per 9 holes, and and an extra person to put for them. All of this each time they win.
    ??

    This makes no sense and this is not what I stated.

    What is being said here is every time Tiger and Phil wins, the opponents are given 50 yards, 2 mulligans per 9 holes. That is essentially is what is happening here.

    And it is not limited to let's say 2 or 3 times 50 yards, but eventually enough yards where all you have to do is make a PUTT next to the hole since after 20 wins by Tiger, you qualify for 1000 yard handicap.

    The issue I don't think is the handicap, it is the fact there is no limit to the handicap.

    What significance does this "crown" serve the winner? Not much, except penalize them for winning. Winners should not be penalized for being the best. It is not a fair game play. If you are not going to invest in the amount of time or money or both, and you lack the power based on what you are capable of spending, you have no business whining about never winning. either go spend more, and take the CWF, or be happy with 2nd or 3rd or nth place. Because you have a choice to spend more, but you don't, and want hand-outs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    If you compare sports to this game you all forgetting players also get old and cannot play anymore. So this is the same players get a handicap with their wins kind of getting older and like I said earlier the person who has the most crowns is obvoulsy the best player.
    This is a great point as well. An drthcadeus ha dsome good ones as well about the extra yards and we get free beers.

    Seriously
    Liek I said
    I CARE LESS
    have the crowns dont have the crowns WHO CARES? PR and a few others. The rest of us know we will never reach the finals. We gave up on CWF a while ago. IN fact I never cared about it form day 1.

    But dont change the system just because PR doesnt like it.

    And yes PR i know it seems Im being hard on you, but I dont have an issue with you, or how much money you spend, I just disagree with you on this subject wholeheartedly. SO please dont think I am making this a personal attack on you - because it may sound like it at times but it is not meant to be personal.

    As I said before, I think your making a mountain out of a mole hill.

    If there were another player in USA that had within 5% of your power and you guys were fiercely competitive and you always won because of superior tactics etc, I would see how this could make it feel like that guy gets a win or 2 or 3 handed to him. But the fact is there are 3 or 4 guys who can compete with you at the moment, 2 of which have crowns as well, I dont see how this is going to change much of anything, except MAYBE a former winner gets knocked out a round earlier because of the crowns. But they will still make top 8 regardless. SO their rewards are a hair less then they would have been without the crowns. That is the worse case scenario given the current make up of this game. The 2nd worse case scenario is you and exec and bubba will start alternating wins. You win then bubba wins the next then you exec, then PR. This system in this case helps prevent someone just below the 3 of you from catching up and making the finals because it slows down the number of wins you build up. Making it take 2 or 3 times as longer for you to rack up wins. Giving you plenty of time to out pace the people just below you,bubba and exec. The ceiling is a lot higher then you think and will take longer to get there then most think. And it cant stay there forever.
    And even if it did. you bubba exec nape randulf and others, will still be considered the best of the best on the USA servers. This crown system as is with the current make up of players, will only server to lock up your places as the best, and force you guys to share within the small amount of you that have gotten to the point where you blow away the other 98% of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by explorertynon103_3174937 View Post
    ??

    This makes no sense and this is not what I stated.

    What is being said here is every time Tiger and Phil wins, the opponents are given 50 yards, 2 mulligans per 9 holes. That is essentially is what is happening here.

    And it is not limited to let's say 2 or 3 times 50 yards, but eventually enough yards where all you have to do is make a PUTT next to the hole since after 20 wins by Tiger, you qualify for 1000 yard handicap.

    The issue I don't think is the handicap, it is the fact there is no limit to the handicap.

    What significance does this "crown" serve the winner? Not much, except penalize them for winning. Winners should not be penalized for being the best. It is not a fair game play. If you are not going to invest in the amount of time or money or both, and you lack the power based on what you are capable of spending, you have no business whining about never winning. either go spend more, and take the CWF, or be happy with 2nd or 3rd or nth place. Because you have a choice to spend more, but you don't, and want hand-outs.
    I think you missed my point... Because they won, tiger and phil were given a huge advantage, now they did not have to work as hard as others to make the same gains. Sweet awesome for prizes. Now they win a second time, they are given an even greater advantage. now they win a third. they have been given massive gains for little to no effort and others cannot keep up and compete. this is what has happened in CW, the crown system seeks to remedy that and ensure it doesn't get out of hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by explorertynon103_3174937 View Post
    ??

    This makes no sense and this is not what I stated.

    What is being said here is every time Tiger and Phil wins, the opponents are given 50 yards, 2 mulligans per 9 holes. That is essentially is what is happening here.

    And it is not limited to let's say 2 or 3 times 50 yards, but eventually enough yards where all you have to do is make a PUTT next to the hole since after 20 wins by Tiger, you qualify for 1000 yard handicap.

    The issue I don't think is the handicap, it is the fact there is no limit to the handicap.

    What significance does this "crown" serve the winner? Not much, except penalize them for winning. Winners should not be penalized for being the best. It is not a fair game play. If you are not going to invest in the amount of time or money or both, and you lack the power based on what you are capable of spending, you have no business whining about never winning. either go spend more, and take the CWF, or be happy with 2nd or 3rd or nth place. Because you have a choice to spend more, but you don't, and want hand-outs.
    You are missing the point and taking it all out of whack

    Every time some one wins CWF they gain an advantage over the rest of us with stars leader cards gear etc. Allowing them to be better just because they won. SO the analogy of giving Tiger another 50 yards is accurate Your analogy of it giving everyone else 50 yards is not. To make this analogy a little more accurate would be the first time tiger wins he gets a 50 yard advantage, after 2 wins he only has a 45, after 3 he only has a 40, after 4 wins he only has a 35, etc etc etc. However after so many wins any way. the rewards for cwf are going to become meaningless unless they are updated. But as other people win and play - tiger's advantage goes back up for each win his opponent has.

    ANd this system is not really going to do what explorer and pr think where people will be handed victories. It may make someone go out a round earlier and yes it will cause alternating winners in the USA eventually given the status quo. But its not going to let smaller players who have not worked hard and spent the money the opportunity to catch PR and beat him in the finals - UNLESS he does nothing else with his acct from today on AND - no new content is ever introduced.
    Last edited by mattp169; 03-17-2014 at 08:54 PM.

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    I think the new system is great.
    It gives hope to those less strong to win and will entice them to be more interested in CW again.
    I prefer prizes to be spread out for all players.
    I always dislike a jackpot of 100 million too - Why put all the wealth in one place?
    But that truly comes down to views on life I guess...

    Some will prefer one winner to take all.
    Others will prefer more chances for all players, coiner or non-coiner.

    I vote for the system to stay as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildflower View Post
    I think the new system is great.
    It gives hope to those less strong to win and will entice them to be more interested in CW again.
    I prefer prizes to be spread out for all players.
    I always dislike a jackpot of 100 million too - Why put all the wealth in one place?
    But that truly comes down to views on life I guess...

    Some will prefer one winner to take all.
    Others will prefer more chances for all players, coiner or non-coiner.

    I vote for the system to stay as it is.
    SEE THIS IS WHY THE SYSTEM IS IN PLACE.

    Its not really going to change much of anything EVER.
    It just seems like it will. Its not like some 50m power player who doesnt drop thousands of dollars and lots of hard work in to their acct will ever catch PR if he continues to play the game at his current pace - even if he has 50 crowns

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrthCaedus View Post
    I think you missed my point... Because they won, tiger and phil were given a huge advantage, now they did not have to work as hard as others to make the same gains. Sweet awesome for prizes. Now they win a second time, they are given an even greater advantage. now they win a third. they have been given massive gains for little to no effort and others cannot keep up and compete. this is what has happened in CW, the crown system seeks to remedy that and ensure it doesn't get out of hand.
    When Tiger wins, he gets like millions of $$$$$$$$$$? With that money comes more advantages over you and I every day of the week. Better trainers, better equipment, etc etc...

    What they gain in terms of card, and chips .. ok I understand that. Maybe they should do AWAY with the leader cards and chips and replace it with something else? Like Hall of fame and other boosts like during that week, they get more boost over banish? so they can get a few more coins instead? as well as notoriety of being the best? Just some ideas .. on a tangent.

    But this unlimited crown issue is not solving the players issue. It just creates another set of problems.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by explorertynon103_3174937 View Post
    When Tiger wins, he gets like millions of $$$$$$$$$$? With that money comes more advantages over you and I every day of the week. Better trainers, better equipment, etc etc...

    What they gain in terms of card, and chips .. ok I understand that. Maybe they should do AWAY with the leader cards and chips and replace it with something else? Like Hall of fame and other boosts like during that week, they get more boost over banish? so they can get a few more coins instead? as well as notoriety of being the best? Just some ideas .. on a tangent.

    But this unlimited crown issue is not solving the players issue. It just creates another set of problems.
    LOL

    Seriously the crown thing was not meant to solve ANYTHING - but make it look like they solved something. And the only problem it creates is that PR may not win every single time, but he will win plenty of times . And some of his future losses may have nothing to even do with the crown system.

    Also giving cwf winners an extra boost in banish is a horrible idea. I would not want to be in the realm with the CWF winner. Why should he/she winning cwf cost me rounds in banish and thereby costing me coins/credits/rep. If you dont understand this, then just ignore it, but the devs and many of us understand this concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildflower View Post
    I think the new system is great.
    It gives hope to those less strong to win and will entice them to be more interested in CW again.
    I prefer prizes to be spread out for all players.
    I always dislike a jackpot of 100 million too - Why put all the wealth in one place?
    But that truly comes down to views on life I guess...

    Some will prefer one winner to take all.
    Others will prefer more chances for all players, coiner or non-coiner.

    I vote for the system to stay as it is.

    And this is why everyone who is lazy or poor want more welfare and wants rich to pay more taxes to pay for them.

    You must be one of them.

    Sure you would like nothing more than freebies and hand outs. Why not. Why shouldn't I not have a shot at being the president, even though I have no qualifications.

    In fact I think I will run for the senate and congress and probably win it, like a guy I know in AZ where he was a bartender one year and congressman the next.

    ROFL. Now I am being cynical, but the AZ story is a true one.

    But this sort of selfish careless remark really irks me.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    SEE THIS IS WHY THE SYSTEM IS IN PLACE.

    Its not really going to change much of anything EVER.
    It just seems like it will. Its not like some 50m power player who doesnt drop thousands of dollars and lots of hard work in to their acct will ever catch PR if he continues to play the game at his current pace - even if he has 50 crowns
    I had more respect for you until I read this ridiculous post.

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