Patch: More Balanced Guild Warfare

[Cuddles_1461020]

I think it's WONDERFUL that I can no longer solo entire armies. It was boring as hell!
So we CONGRATULATE our opponents in taking a city from us. They outnumbered us, wore us down, swarmed us, and now the city is theirs. Well done!

[weldon41880_3837036]

and i think you were dropped on ur head as a baby the way they overpowered the non paying non playing people and making smaller guilds more powerful by creating alts is retarded as hell and needs to be fixed

[Morgan le Fay]

I've merged these two threads rather than close one of them. Can I point out guys that creating too many threads on the same subject is like a room full of people shouting and arguing but no one can hear each other.

Try and use the search function a bit, thanks.

[scot_202809]

This is a ridiculous travesty of justice. You, Tynon, are:

1) Encouraging people to CHEAT by creating multiple / massive amounts of non-paying, non-playing alt accounts in order to defeat PAYING CUSTOMERS. Where in your Business 101 marketing course did it tell you that this is a SMART strategy to employ against those who are putting food on your table? Hmmmm? I didn't THINK so!

2) Literally slapping those in the face, HARD, who have worked very long and hard to build up their guild, vis-à-vis, guild funds, et al, in favor of those who have a complete disregard for you as game developers. In other words, the SLACKERS are ruling the roost and edging out the hard-working productive citizens, just like in real life. I personally play this game to ESCAPE that travesty of justice, please don't make me stop playing this game for good. I've done it before in Evony and I'm ready, willing and able to easily push away from the keyboard and do it here and now, too. That's not a threat, that's a PROMISE!

3) Not thoroughly considering all angles before deploying failed 'patches' which only make the game far worse than it was before. If your mission or goals were to make Guild War more fair and equitable, you have failed MISERABLY towards that end. Fair, and even balanced, would allow a player's power level to still be equivalent of ANY OTHER game function in Tynon. Why in the world would you suddenly make an exception just to appease a small minority if whiners, just because they have lower power, refuse to work hard at building up their characters and decided to NOT pay to play the game? Forgive my ignorance here, but didn't you, the developers at uCool, Inc, makers of Tynon, enter into this game designing process as a FOR PROFIT venture? Or is this simply a charity drive for the Girl Scouts?

All of that being said, many reasonable solutions have been tendered, but I will also offer mine. I have sent numerous game suggestions in previously, only to have them ignored, so you'll forgive me for being a bit jaundiced and skeptical that any new ideas originating on this side of the pond will actually see the light of day.

A) As previously suggested, allow for a "Dismiss City" or "Abandon City" function IMMEDIATELY. This should be quick and easy to do with very little fuss or bother and would yield tremendous results right away.

B) Balance the Power / HP / Player Stamina in GW a lot better. No player that is 1/3 or less should be able to easily mow down a stronger player in a single shot, that's totally ridiculous.

C) Allow Bases D and G to actually HEAL player STAMINA as well as HP. This would also further balance things out for BOTH teams, attacking and defending.

D) Have a requirement that discourages individual players from simply creating massive amounts of alts and hopping into GW so they can easily defeat massively larger players who have worked long and hard to build up their characters, by spending lots of time and money to do so.

Make the requirement a minimum level, time played and perhaps quests / gear combination to ensure that the account owner is actually ACTIVELY working this account on a daily basis and not creating 100 alternate accounts.

Remember how all the ALTS and BOTS killed Evony? This is the beginning of that problem, and you are now ENCOURAGING that bad behavior. Decide now if that's the path you are going to continue with, so that I and many of us here will not waste another dime, nor minute on this failed idea of your 'fairness doctrine' to 'balance out Guild War'.

Thanks for listening....well.....ARE YOU?

[Dawnseeker]

I think it's WONDERFUL that I can no longer solo entire armies. It was boring as hell!
So we CONGRATULATE our opponents in taking a city from us. They outnumbered us, wore us down, swarmed us, and now the city is theirs. Well done!

Well said.

This is a ridiculous travesty of justice. You, Tynon, are:

1) Encouraging people to CHEAT by creating multiple / massive amounts of non-paying, non-playing alt accounts in order to defeat PAYING CUSTOMERS. Where in your Business 101 marketing course did it tell you that this is a SMART strategy to employ against those who are putting food on your table? Hmmmm? I didn't THINK so!

2) Literally slapping those in the face, HARD, who have worked very long and hard to build up their guild, vis-à-vis, guild funds, et al, in favor of those who have a complete disregard for you as game developers. In other words, the SLACKERS are ruling the roost and edging out the hard-working productive citizens, just like in real life. I personally play this game to ESCAPE that travesty of justice, please don't make me stop playing this game for good. I've done it before in Evony and I'm ready, willing and able to easily push away from the keyboard and do it here and now, too. That's not a threat, that's a PROMISE!

3) Not thoroughly considering all angles before deploying failed 'patches' which only make the game far worse than it was before. If your mission or goals were to make Guild War more fair and equitable, you have failed MISERABLY towards that end. Fair, and even balanced, would allow a player's power level to still be equivalent of ANY OTHER game function in Tynon. Why in the world would you suddenly make an exception just to appease a small minority if whiners, just because they have lower power, refuse to work hard at building up their characters and decided to NOT pay to play the game? Forgive my ignorance here, but didn't you, the developers at uCool, Inc, makers of Tynon, enter into this game designing process as a FOR PROFIT venture? Or is this simply a charity drive for the Girl Scouts?

All of that being said, many reasonable solutions have been tendered, but I will also offer mine. I have sent numerous game suggestions in previously, only to have them ignored, so you'll forgive me for being a bit jaundiced and skeptical that any new ideas originating on this side of the pond will actually see the light of day.

A) As previously suggested, allow for a "Dismiss City" or "Abandon City" function IMMEDIATELY. This should be quick and easy to do with very little fuss or bother and would yield tremendous results right away.

B) Balance the Power / HP / Player Stamina in GW a lot better. No player that is 1/3 or less should be able to easily mow down a stronger player in a single shot, that's totally ridiculous.

C) Allow Bases D and G to actually HEAL player STAMINA as well as HP. This would also further balance things out for BOTH teams, attacking and defending.

D) Have a requirement that discourages individual players from simply creating massive amounts of alts and hopping into GW so they can easily defeat massively larger players who have worked long and hard to build up their characters, by spending lots of time and money to do so.

Make the requirement a minimum level, time played and perhaps quests / gear combination to ensure that the account owner is actually ACTIVELY working this account on a daily basis and not creating 100 alternate accounts.

Remember how all the ALTS and BOTS killed Evony? This is the beginning of that problem, and you are now ENCOURAGING that bad behavior. Decide now if that's the path you are going to continue with, so that I and many of us here will not waste another dime, nor minute on this failed idea of your 'fairness doctrine' to 'balance out Guild War'.

Thanks for listening....well.....ARE YOU?

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll pass them on. That said, its probably not going to go back to the way it was.

[weldon41880_3837036]

scot i completly agree and support what u have said 100% tynon needs to address this immediatly or like u and myself we will walk away and they will lose 2 players who SPEND money on here and work to build up i quit evony becuase the massive alts and bots made the game crap to play

[MiniMinx_5244129]

Gw should be a challenge but the recent patch is a bit over the top.I dont see why people who are not on for gw should even be sitting defending.If you cant make it tough luck,can i claim guild benefits and get taken to cerb?

[scot_202809]

Gw should be a challenge but the recent patch is a bit over the top.I dont see why people who are not on for gw should even be sitting defending.If you cant make it tough luck,can i claim guild benefits and get taken to cerb?

You know, that's a very good point. Why not make it that you actually have to be there to play it? Not just sign up and sit in base.

Great suggestion.

And DS, I'm not advocating a return to the previous state of gameplay, just a very STRONG change from the horrible way that it is now.

It went from being not fair for one group, to not fair for the other. Somewhere in between in the middle ground is the true solution, but what we have now is NOT it.

[rickgira_8334803]

Wow... losing 5 durability each time you kill someone is just STUPID. I invested a lot of money in this game and it is continues, i will quit. Worst game change ever made in game history. Let's piss off the people who pay our bills.

[Ironfist-III_7199133]

This single patch has generated anger throughout your paying base and certainly has generated support in your non-paying/playing base as well.
Those that play obsessively and also pay (your bills I might add) have more power than those that do not play as often or pay to gain power. I do not understand the reluctance to correct the inequality produced with the patch.
Polls galore.. yet no suspension of the patch till a working solution can be found. Many have made suggestions that should and could be explored, but the only solution offered up by Tynon is to further reward the very changes that make the patch so horrid.
I play obsessively, pretty much everyday but if the solution to this isn't worked out quickly I will find another game that I can obsess over. I'm a gamer and obsess over the games I play so finding another wont be very hard. It'd be a shame to leave this game since I've invested so much, but I left WoW after 7 years and much more invested, so I don't think many of us will find it that hard to find another source of entertainment.