Patch: More Balanced Guild Warfare

[Herby]

If VIP players quit just because of Guild Wars, then they aren't that good players at all.

It's like quitting your job because the new recruits have a bigger desk and a newer computer.

[MuffJunky]

Don't suppose we can just scrap the buffs during GW and add in the boost, like Cerb/Baal, Rag, and Palace? Those who want a challenge don't have to boost, those that don't want a challenge can boost and those in between can just go to whichever percentage they feel like that day.

[MisChief]

Wrong. You can have an alt guild of yours take it from you (unless the city level is too high).

Funny, in an odd way, now you are all about alt guilds?? Even proposing that they create one to take their own city? Weren't you the one who wanted all alts banned or something?

[lugnut_fxi_6829524]

If VIP players quit just because of Guild Wars, then they aren't that good players at all.

It's like quitting your job because the new recruits have a bigger desk and a newer computer.

how about if you work for someone for 15 years getting a raise every 4 months bringing you to lets say 16$ an hour <small town> then they hire a new employee that you are the boss to and the starting wage of that employee is 21$ an hour.

[Cuddles_1461020]

Let's use two fictional player player names: SolarEclypse and Deuce1313, a real-life boyfriend and girlfriend who enjoy playing online games such as Tynon. Unfortunately for the couple, their overall demeanor, bad attitudes, insulting behavior and foul language has driven them from one guild to the next, until they are finally relegated to either starting their own guild or relying on a smaller guild who is desperate for players.

Because they have found a home in a guild with other similar less-popular players who are literally social outcasts due to their erratic / snide / hateful behavior, the small guild has a serious lack of guild funds. This in turn has the direct effect of not allowing the guild to grow as quickly as it would like to, thus limiting the amount of cities the guild can develop in their guild hall. Lack of players = lack of funds = lack of cities. It's very simple math, and quite easy to understand how it happens. You treat people like crap, and you are bound to upset enough of them that the decent guilds won't have anything to do with our fictional couple, SolarEclypse and Deuce1313.

Fast-forward to Guild War time. "We can't win against these bigger guilds," they say. "They have all the bigger players and all of the cities. They just take all the new cities right away, too. We can't even get one!"

Upon further examination, SolarEclypse and Deuce1313 and most of their fellow guild members have not been as active in playing Tynon as they could have been. Additionally, few of their guild members, if any, have spent a dime on the game in order to strengthen their heroes and accounts in general. They are the typical lazy loudmouths who tend to ruin every game they participate in, both in real life and in the virtual world. They want the world to hand them out a 'freebie', rather than actually work hard for something they achieve on their own. These are the exact same type of lame losers in real life who don't have a job but do have EBT cards to buy cigarettes, booze, drugs and lingerie while the rest of us work very hard to make a living and support the idle idiots too.

This is totally your kind of breakfast cereal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4jmXqjjPcc

[ChickenWing]

Funny, in an odd way, now you are all about alt guilds?? Even proposing that they create one to take their own city? Weren't you the one who wanted all alts banned or something?

I wanted to prevent people from farming alts by removing coins+credits from the revenge system. I am not all about alts, although I admit the game is forcing us in another direction. As most people arguing against them, I am using them as well. How could I know so much about them otherwise? I know what advantage you can take from them, and I think it's unfair. But why not take advantage of something when you know very well others are doing it? I truly wish something was done against them. If my competitors weren't doing it, I wouldn't have to do it. And they're probably thinking the same thing. Vicious circle. It has to stop somewhere, but it would be stupid to rely on the players themselves to do it. The change has to come from Tynon, otherwise people will always make the choice to use what their competitors might be using too.

Whenever I find a glitch, I tell everyone. I don't think someone should take advantage of something while others, who haven't noticed it yet, aren't. I did it for the card glitch in the tavern back then (which is now fixed) and, yes, I took advantage from that glitch as well-- like everyone who knew about it.

[pizaminis1988_9635145]

Hello. I would like to know about the ''new patch'' of this game from the 15 day about the Guild Warfare to be ect. What is the power balance at the moment? At how much the ''Super'' player is reduced by the strenght ( power ) and from what kind of power difference it starts to work? Why the player with the 150 million of power - was defeated by the player with 85 milion of power, when one week ago the same player with the 150 million of power was abble to defeat the same player with 85 million of power + another player with 60 million of power + another player with 40 million of power and all the rest of the enemies guild. Both battles from these players and was made in the same possitions. the enemies ( were in camp A, the player with the 150 million was in camp B ) .
Please explain me how much are reduced the ''super'' players strenght ( power ) in Guild Warfare.

Please respond me to my emeil in as less time as possible, becouse we are loosing cities and no one understands why and how? ...

[ChickenWing]

Hello. I would like to know about the ''new patch'' of this game from the 15 day about the Guild Warfare to be ect. What is the power balance at the moment? At how much the ''Super'' player is reduced by the strenght ( power ) and from what kind of power difference it starts to work? Why the player with the 150 million of power - was defeated by the player with 85 milion of power, when one week ago the same player with the 150 million of power was abble to defeat the same player with 85 million of power + another player with 60 million of power + another player with 40 million of power and all the rest of the enemies guild. Both battles from these players and was made in the same possitions. the enemies ( were in camp A, the player with the 150 million was in camp B ) .
Please explain me how much are reduced the ''super'' players strenght ( power ) in Guild Warfare.

Please respond me to my emeil in as less time as possible, becouse we are loosing cities and no one understands why and how? ...

Hello Pizza,

Your questions will be answered if you read the first few posts in this thread. If you hadn't noticed, the very first post asks the very same question.

Hope this helps,

Chicken

[MisChief]

I wanted to prevent people from farming alts by removing coins+credits from the revenge system. I am not all about alts, although I admit the game is forcing us in another direction. As most people arguing against them, I am using them as well. How could I know so much about them otherwise? I know what advantage you can take from them, and I think it's unfair. But why not take advantage of something when you know very well others are doing it? I truly wish something was done against them. If my competitors weren't doing it, I wouldn't have to do it. And they're probably thinking the same thing. Vicious circle. It has to stop somewhere, but it would be stupid to rely on the players themselves to do it. The change has to come from Tynon, otherwise people will always make the choice to use what their competitors might be using too.

Whenever I find a glitch, I tell everyone. I don't think someone should take advantage of something while others, who haven't noticed it yet, aren't. I did it for the card glitch in the tavern back then (which is now fixed) and, yes, I took advantage from that glitch as well-- like everyone who knew about it.

OK. Crystal clear now. It's ok to do stuff because everyone, or a lot, are. So why then want them gone, if you benefit from it as well as others? What would the purpose be to run alts if not to feed a main? But the basic issue here is; they do it, you do it, everyone should?? Then ask Tynon Devs to "clear" them out, deal with this horrible alt issue?? Makes no sense to me... or talking out both sides.

[Pirate_1360826]

OK. Crystal clear now. It's ok to do stuff because everyone, or a lot, are. So why then want them gone, if you benefit from it as well as others? What would the purpose be to run alts if not to feed a main? But the basic issue here is; they do it, you do it, everyone should?? Then ask Tynon Devs to "clear" them out, deal with this horrible alt issue?? Makes no sense to me... or talking out both sides.

Perhaps some people do it to keep even with others who have alts, but would much rather NOT having to make alts to keep up with others who are spamming alts? If alts were weaker, then there would be less use for alts and then those of us who hate alts yet feel they are needed can ditch them and save ourselves the effort? And not everyone uses alts to feed their main -- especially with this terrible durability mechanic, it is now far more important to get the alts up (at least to the point where they can beat opposing alts, saving durability from being received on your mains).

Alts are needed, and I hate that fact. Having maximum guild capacity is far too important right now, and that space must be filled through alts, as no fresh players are joining [my server]. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't sort of thing -- don't make alts and lost cities to opposing guilds making alts, or do make alts and then lose interest in the game's work required to maintain status on the server.


Furthermore, GW has changed from B -> A into "AFK WARS." Small players and alts fight the battles while large players afk in G to save durability. Most opposing guilds try once, realize they've taken too much damage and can't crack G because of it, and afk the rest of the fight as well. This leaves 30 turns of both sides afk in A and G whilst 1M power accounts fight each other at D to no end. We don't have the power to take A, they don't have the power to take G, and we sit around moping over the durability.