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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Hey Neriya. How did you get your quest Maria that shows in the replays?
    Finished the quest line and then it restarted on me, causing me to redo the first quests again. I got to the Maria quest and just never finished it, and it allowed me to keep Maria.

    White Maria had 150 base hit, 250 resilience, and 831 intelligence. She's removed from my inn now, however, so Tynon must have fixed the bug (at least for those who had replays; not sure about others).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Can you explain how the GW changes encourage alts?
    Because every fight won decreases the winners durability by 5, 6 hits no matter what reduces a players power to 70% 20 reduces them to 0. It is possible then for a group of 20 alts with just enough power to join a guild to take out a player of any power, even PR, just by hitting them. Guilds on both sides are now encouraged to create massive amounts of alts to beat down their opponents through shear numbers. now a guild of 15 actives can create 30 alts and completely wipe the floor with a guild that massively outmatches them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrthCaedus View Post
    Because every fight won decreases the winners durability by 5, 6 hits no matter what reduces a players power to 70% 20 reduces them to 0. It is possible then for a group of 20 alts with just enough power to join a guild to take out a player of any power, even PR, just by hitting them. Guilds on both sides are now encouraged to create massive amounts of alts to beat down their opponents through shear numbers. now a guild of 15 actives can create 30 alts and completely wipe the floor with a guild that massively outmatches them.
    I see. Thanks!
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    As usual, Tynon overcorrected what really wasn't a problem to begin with. Players spend money here, and put in time here, to build toons and win. Penalizing those who do so is disincentivizing them from continuing. Tynon loses money. There will always be free players, but uCool has targeted those who actually pay to support the game. Stop buying gems and see how fast it changes back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrthCaedus View Post
    Because every fight won decreases the winners durability by 5, 6 hits no matter what reduces a players power to 70% 20 reduces them to 0. It is possible then for a group of 20 alts with just enough power to join a guild to take out a player of any power, even PR, just by hitting them. Guilds on both sides are now encouraged to create massive amounts of alts to beat down their opponents through shear numbers. now a guild of 15 actives can create 30 alts and completely wipe the floor with a guild that massively outmatches them.

    well said, and true

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    The power bonus was one thing; that gave a chance to legitimate guilds who worked hard but just came to the game late or are faced with a guild they could beat if it weren't for just one vastly overwhelming player (which happens on every server from what I see personally and have heard). However, the durability thing does, as others said, just reward those same dominant guilds who already have guilds full of alts for extra maps, extra coins and extra credits. Now not only can they defend their cities by placing blocking bids from these alt guilds, these alt guilds can be used to cripple their enemies as well.

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    #1-- How does someone attack with 20 alts? Do they have 20 browsers? (the whole "alt" label is very commonly accused upon newer players and less-active players).

    #2-- 15 ppl + 30 alts (45 total) is still no match for a guild with 45 people. (and 45 is being generous, as there are guilds with 60-70 active people). And if your server population is so low that a 15 player guild is normal .... shouldn't you be grateful you still have competition?


    If you want to discourage alts and not the active players, then the solution is to disable the OFFLINE players (who collected guild benefits) from being in the GW. (ie: no more automated defenders. Have to show up.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020 View Post
    #1-- How does someone attack with 20 alts? Do they have 20 browsers? (the whole "alt" label is very commonly accused upon newer players and less-active players).

    #2-- 15 ppl + 30 alts (45 total) is still no match for a guild with 45 people. (and 45 is being generous, as there are guilds with 60-70 active people). And if your server population is so low that a 15 player guild is normal .... shouldn't you be grateful you still have competition?


    If you want to discourage alts and not the active players, then the solution is to disable the OFFLINE players (who collected guild benefits) from being in the GW. (ie: no more automated defenders. Have to show up.)
    it is a match when the defending guild has to defend 6 cities and can only spare 8 people. Second it's called tabs...when i used the 20 alts example it would only take 10 of those people running 2 of them, that's 3 tabs, not too difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrthCaedus View Post
    it is a match when the defending guild has to defend 6 cities and can only spare 8 people.
    You have 6 rival guilds attacking you at 6 different locations. (this also infers that you hold 6+ cities)
    And yet you are entitled enough to feel that you should win. Hmmmm.

    Can you remind me again why you're complaining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020 View Post
    You have 6 rival guilds attacking you at 6 different locations. (this also infers that you hold 6+ cities)
    And yet you are entitled enough to feel that you should win. Hmmmm.

    Can you remind me again why you're complaining?
    I think it's more to do with guilds overloading GWs with alts. You can't tell me that playing with alts entitles you to win either.

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