I disagree, when the chance of sainting is the same for everyone then the element of luck is not involved. Tynon has set a price on the saintings they just do not want the players to know the price. I do not buy a car unless I know the full price. This includes taxes, license, shipping and what ever other fees may be attached. I make the dealer put in writing the final price and then determine if I am willing to pay it. What tynon has done is what they always do, make it look like chance when it is not. Sainting is no different then the predetermined rigged tavern.