NO either is used when 2 things are involvedOriginally Posted by Andy
neither is used when more than 2
NO either is used when 2 things are involved
neither is used when more than 2
Either is used to place 2 things as multiple options. Ex: We are going to either vegas or reno. Either she quits or I do.
Neither is used to draw a comparison between two items who don't do something. Ex: Vegas doesn't cheat and neither does Tynon. Neither Vegas nor Tynon cheat.
There is no differentiation based on number as both require only 2 objects. The can be extended to include 3+, however, not often.
Is english your second language? Neither is used to show that two objects DONT do the afformentioned activity. Either means they DO the activity. Has nothing to do with amount of things involved. Neither would be the correct usage.
On the subject of randomness and predetermined....essentially think of it as this. EVERY random roll you make on your account, every combination of sanctifications, every star amount, every lab setup, every THING, that random roll is made the second you make your account. So no, its not random in that the roll is done EXACTLY when you do the activity, but the randomness of it was determined at some point in time, which doesnt make it any less random. Whether the game determines that I have to use 8 purple stars to go from 12 to 13 stars on Shayd right then and there, or the second I make my account, doesnt change the randomness of it.
exactly my point
and no english is not my second language. I made that whole thing up with either/neither to be a smart ass cuz I am not writing a formal paper and I found it funny that andy who got my point decided to nitpick one word in that post. when he makes typographical and grammatical errors as much as me.
Last edited by mattp169; 03-26-2014 at 06:12 PM.
Think it should be "as much as I do"
Tynon is a textbook example of rigged games.
To Andy:
If the outcome is decided before you "play" that is a textbook definition of rigged.
The INTENT is obvious since the player has NO CHOICE in the tavern.
Three Card Monty is a rigged game. The slight of hand by the dealer is intended to defraud.
You don't see the Tavern as rigged because you can't detect the slight of hand. Or refuse to.
You have previously admitted that it is "weighted" towards certain outcomes. THAT MEANS IT'S RIGGED.
Yes, I know that other games do the same thing. So what?
Why not have the Tavern be TRULY our choice? Why would that be a bad thing?
The intent of the devs is to get people to spend more cash/gems to get a better outcome. Do you deny that too?
But what if the Tavern WAS our choice? Would more people stay and eventually pay?
We don't know do we? Why not find out? Why don't you ask the devs to make the Tavern a REAL game? Not a rigged one.
Gorgon
Rig: Manage or conduct (something) fraudulently so as to produce a result or situation that is advantageous to a particular person http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us...q=rigged#rig-2 From the oxford english dictionary. The definition implies fraud: Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.(Oxford) or as it says "Fraudulent": Obtained, done by, or involving deception, especially criminal deception. (Oxford). I don't think I have to define anything else. To rig something means to commit fraud. to commit fraud there must be criminal deception. Which I could go pull a definition of but it requires malicious intent. Meaning that for Tynon to rig something. They would have to possess malicious intent to purposefully manipulate all aspects of the game to benefit only them and then to present a story that entails the opposite with the intent to deceive their entire player base that the game is programmed in their favor or neutral. RNG programming does not equal "rigged". Calling the RNG in Tynon rigged is akin to calling the average slot machine "Rigged". It's absurd. Get off it
sarcasm is lost
exactly.Rig: Manage or conduct (something) fraudulently so as to produce a result or situation that is advantageous to a particular person http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us...q=rigged#rig-2 From the oxford english dictionary. The definition implies fraud: Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.(Oxford) or as it says "Fraudulent": Obtained, done by, or involving deception, especially criminal deception. (Oxford). I don't think I have to define anything else. To rig something means to commit fraud. to commit fraud there must be criminal deception. Which I could go pull a definition of but it requires malicious intent. Meaning that for Tynon to rig something. They would have to possess malicious intent to purposefully manipulate all aspects of the game to benefit only them and then to present a story that entails the opposite with the intent to deceive their entire player base that the game is programmed in their favor or neutral. RNG programming does not equal "rigged". Calling the RNG in Tynon rigged is akin to calling the average slot machine "Rigged". It's absurd. Get off it
the devs are not intentionally trying to screw with us.
The house always wins in the end
if the house didnt there would be no house
Urban dictionary
1. The word rigged is used to describe situations where unfair advantages are given to one side of a conflict.
From Dictionary.com
rig [rig] Show IPA
verb (used with object), rigged, rig·ging.
4.
to manipulate fraudulently: to rig prices.
Deciding the result ahead of time does not give an unfair advantage as long as the same rules are used for every one, and that is the way it is in the game. It also does not involve fraudulent manipulation (like in the Three Card MontY) because there is now fraud involved when the game is working as designed.
Just because players think the because they get to pick a card means that they have a way to influence the outcome when it does not, does not mean it is fraudulent or it give and unfair advantage to anyone. Therefore it does not meet the definition of rigged as stated above. What it does means is that the player does not understand how the game works.
The opinions expressed on this post are my own as a player, not as a Moderator.
Rigged has the connotation that there is gambling going on, and that you are gambling against the house (I guess that would be us) and that we misrepresented the odds of you winning. None of these things are true, so the game is not "rigged."
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