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    that's the trouble tho - i get 700+ myself at a minimum 2 times every day..... and so far i've gotten 4 plans to drop since server 11 started.

    tokens are as rare as rocking horse poo for me - i seem to only get chips in the shuffle. i reckon if i do 100 unsuccessful attempts at obtaining a lb spirit plan at lvl 2 normal (ie getting over 700 score 100 times without a plan dropping) then it should count for something at least - that and/or drop rates for plans need to be adjusted.

    I don't buy my way through labs - i do it the hard way, and spend gems on extra 'changes' or 'skips' where i need to. there should be more of a reward for firstly getting 700 or better (without buying it) and the shuffles should have better prizes commensurate with effort put in.

    Update...maybe i should whinge more often - just pulled a lb spirit plan at long last with a score of 725
    Last edited by trahevony_4745091; 04-01-2014 at 09:08 AM. Reason: update......

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    I agree with matt and cuddles, spirit plans should be earned through hard work, as they are the most important piece of equipment.

    Technique to getting plans through lab: Don't score just 700, score an 800 Plans drop a lot more often from 800 scores.

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    Wow that is twice in less than 5 days that Herby and Matt agree on something.
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    i do not like this idea at all. im with mattp on this one. its already way to easy with people buying packages and gain tokens that way. we DO NOT need yet another easy way to get plans. i've worked my butt off for all the spirits i have and i think it's worth it. if everything comes "free" and easy, the game really isnt worth playing then. it's been made noob friendly enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020 View Post
    I'll counter your counter with this:
    Have you ever seen someone have 10 to 15 browsers open to bet on CW?
    20,000 tickets each season x15 = a whole lot of spirit plan (accumulating every two weeks). And all they did was sit on their arse for 1 hour and click a bigger number.

    The solution to the "plans are too rare" problem is to modify the plans drop rate (700 boss and 800 boss), and/or token #s earned, or token drop rates.
    Since Tynon's latest plans-drop modification, I find plans drops to come on (my) average about 1/20 for 700 bosses, and 1/7 for 800 bosses. Perhaps I've been luckier than others, I don't know, but if my rate is the real rate then I think it's a pretty good rate.
    I'm actually failing to see your point in raising the multiple browser thing...it's not like they can bet more than once per account. If an individual is on 15 servers, good for them, it's a lot of work to make all those bets, keep up with GWs, and run all the accounts. If they're alts, it's not like you can transfer spirits between accounts, so not an issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenly View Post
    i do not like this idea at all. im with mattp on this one. its already way to easy with people buying packages and gain tokens that way. we DO NOT need yet another easy way to get plans. i've worked my butt off for all the spirits i have and i think it's worth it. if everything comes "free" and easy, the game really isnt worth playing then. it's been made noob friendly enough.
    How is clicking tiles in a lab for 20 minutes and strategizing over whether to risk the destiny or not, or to go left or right, more work than clicking place bet for 2 hours strategizing and anticipating when the underdog might win, when they might lose, etc. I fail to see how one is more "work" than the other. Both involve sitting on our asses and clicking for a few minutes with some minor strategy. I fail to see how this would nerf the game in any way. This would not imbalance spirits at all really, what really did that was the buying of tokens in packs. This, is nothing like that. It is another way to gain spirits thats about the exact same amount of effort as the lab, with more time needing to be invested and only a chance of a drop if you place high enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrthCaedus View Post
    I'm actually failing to see your point in raising the multiple browser thing...it's not like they can bet more than once per account. If an individual is on 15 servers, good for them, it's a lot of work to make all those bets, keep up with GWs, and run all the accounts. If they're alts, it's not like you can transfer spirits between accounts, so not an issue.
    It is an issue because they can use the tickets to buy coins or credits and then farm the alts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    It is an issue because they can use the tickets to buy coins or credits and then farm the alts.
    I'm aware of that, but it has little to do with the concept of spirits. Anyone who would use an alt for that is already doing so.

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    ok if this game is too hard for you then just play a different one and stop asking for changes that make this game more like farmville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    ok if this game is too hard for you then just play a different one and stop asking for changes that make this game more like farmville.
    I never said the game was hard...in fact as far as MMOs go it's one of the simplest and easiest to play that i've encountered. I'm not asking for them to make the game easier, and could you please explain to me how the lab is "harder" than betting in CW. Tedious, boring, mind-numbingly dull do not equal harder or more work, just less interest. I would rather put my time and effort into something I find a bit more enjoyable, watching and betting in CW.

    I would like to here an argument for lab being harder, or more work, compared to CW when you break it down to the basic mechanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrthCaedus View Post
    Soooo i'm really tired right now...and I feel like I might have just had the most brilliant idea ever (it could be the exhaustion and mid-term hallucinations) but how awesome would it be if we could buy spirit plans in the CW shop? Not for ridiculously low prices by any means...but let's say start the HB at 10k tickets and go up 10k form there per plan. 20k for champ, 30k for guardian, 40k for iron, 50k for light, 60k for justice, 70k for judgment, 80k for sirus, etc. I think it sounds pretty fair. Thoughts everyone???
    I would be okish with this suggestion if the prices for HB was 100K, 150k for champ, 200k for gaurdian, 250k for iron, 300k for light, 400k for justice, 500k for judgement, and 1 million for sirius
    Still I agree with matt that this is nerfing the game not improving it

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