Mount XP/HP progression numbers

[g346007_1906957]

A lot of good ideas here.

However, the mounts can fairly easily over power this game to a point where all heroics and royal challenges becomes too easy. Given that the mounts with buffs were added with no change to the current heroics or royal challenges leaves potential for other changes if it becomes too easy to get to higher stars

Unless this game scales differently; and all heroics and royal challenges are changed to be comparable to the HP gains at the 9+ star ranking, making it easier to obtain higher stars may be a devil in disguise.

Thus, accepting the fact that the current HP gains from mounts with no change to the heroics and royal challenges, it would not scale properly if starring up the mounts were made easier.

This requires much more thinking - about the entire game balance if mount experience or changes are made.

I think the newest pvm bosses are already scaled up for this. There's a huge jump in power required to defeat scipio as opposed to khan.

It's quite obvious why you want it to be more difficult to progress though. If you replace 'mounts' with 'ability to spend a ton of cash' in your statements, it would still make sense.


I am probably also in the group of people who overvalue hp. Hp is awesome. If monsters need a buff, it should be in damage to counteract this. Too many monsters are winning fights by making us hit the round cap.'


Edit: +1 to Yelshas idea... although, by the time they change it, it will probably be too late for me.

[Yelsha]

Edit: +1 to Yelshas idea... although, by the time they change it, it will probably be too late for me.

Better late than never. Even if I already have a 8 star bear by the time they implement this, it means I can start working a Dragon while still building up the bear in anticipation of when my Dragon becomes better than the bear, albeit it may take 5 years for that lol. Right now, only thing Dragon is good for is the 2-3 seconds I can save during the lady event I never participate in and the 0.05 seconds per round I can save in Banish. Doesn't even look any more badass than the bear.

[g346007_1906957]

Better late than never. Even if I already have a 8 star bear by the time they implement this, it means I can start working a Dragon while still building up the bear in anticipation of when my Dragon becomes better than the bear, albeit it may take 5 years for that lol. Right now, only thing Dragon is good for is the 2-3 seconds I can save during the lady event I never participate in and the 0.05 seconds per round I can save in Banish. Doesn't even look any more badass than the bear.

It's late for me because I'm buffing the dragon now :P

[Deucalion]

Better late than never. Even if I already have a 8 star bear by the time they implement this, it means I can start working a Dragon while still building up the bear in anticipation of when my Dragon becomes better than the bear, albeit it may take 5 years for that lol. Right now, only thing Dragon is good for is the 2-3 seconds I can save during the lady event I never participate in and the 0.05 seconds per round I can save in Banish. Doesn't even look any more badass than the bear.

That's what I'm saying. No matter how you look at it, the bear is much more desirable to me. 1b coins looks good in my gear and runes.

I'll get a dragon when the cost to upgrade it isn't only affordable by 3 people in Tynon.

[kwanaiyu_8363760]

Yes the dragon is completely wrong
2500 exp for 1 star
5k for 2 stars 10k for 3 etc etc
takes 448 years at 5 free feedings a day to get to 15

Well, We all can wait 448 years right?....No?....okay

[mattp169]

ok here is my suggestion
get rid of tames use the gems to buy coins to use on
unlimited feeds
feeds scale
whit horse 250k
black horse 500k
leopard 750k
tiger 1m
bear 1.25 m
rhino 1.5m
dragon 2m
exp per level is the same for all mounts
here is a chart

		White Horse	Black Horse	leopard	tiger	bear	rhino	dragon
	exp	@250k per feed	@500k per feed	@750k per feed	@1m per feed	@1.25m per feed	@1.5m per feed	@2m per feed
1 star	300	750,000	1,500,000	2,250,000	3,000,000	3,750,000	4,500,000	6,000,000
2 star	600	1,500,000	3,000,000	4,500,000	6,000,000	7,500,000	9,000,000	12,000,000
3 star	1200	3,000,000	6,000,000	9,000,000	12,000,000	15,000,000	18,000,000	24,000,000
4 star	2400	6,000,000	12,000,000	18,000,000	24,000,000	30,000,000	36,000,000	48,000,000
5 star	4800	12,000,000	24,000,000	36,000,000	48,000,000	60,000,000	72,000,000	96,000,000
6 star	9600	24,000,000	48,000,000	72,000,000	96,000,000	120,000,000	144,000,000	192,000,000
7 star	19200	48,000,000	96,000,000	144,000,000	192,000,000	240,000,000	288,000,000	384,000,000
8 star	38400	96,000,000	192,000,000	288,000,000	384,000,000	480,000,000	576,000,000	768,000,000
9 star	76800	192,000,000	384,000,000	576,000,000	768,000,000	960,000,000	1,152,000,000	1,536,000,000
10 star	153600	384,000,000	768,000,000	1,152,000,000	1,536,000,000	1,920,000,000	2,304,000,000	3,072,000,000
11 star	307200	768,000,000	1,536,000,000	2,304,000,000	3,072,000,000	3,840,000,000	4,608,000,000	6,144,000,000
12 star	614400	1,536,000,000	3,072,000,000	4,608,000,000	6,144,000,000	7,680,000,000	9,216,000,000	12,288,000,000
13 star	1228800	3,072,000,000	6,144,000,000	9,216,000,000	12,288,000,000	15,360,000,000	18,432,000,000	24,576,000,000
14 star	2457600	6,144,000,000	12,288,000,000	18,432,000,000	24,576,000,000	30,720,000,000	36,864,000,000	49,152,000,000
15 star	4915200	12,288,000,000	24,576,000,000	36,864,000,000	49,152,000,000	61,440,000,000	73,728,000,000	98,304,000,000
total needed	9830100	24,575,250,000	49,150,500,000	73,725,750,000	98,301,000,000	122,876,250,000	147,451,500,000	196,602,000,000

As you can see a white horse takes 24b coins to get to 15 stars. Now that is achievable in a short time for some big players. but only gives 16k hp which can be achieved with a dragon for a lot less

So the coin costs alone will slow down people along with the common sense approach

I still feel a transfer option should be instituted allowing a player to transfer the amount of coins spent on a mount to another leveling the new mount up by that amount of coins. A germ cost can be charged for a perfect transfer. Or coins for an imperfect which would only transfer 75% of the coins invested.

I think this will not allow people to level up a mount to fast and gain an unreasonable amount of HP too quickly while making the 15 star achievement more likely in a reasonable amount of time

[Yelsha]

ok here is my suggestion
get rid of tames use the gems to buy coins to use on
unlimited feeds
feeds scale
whit horse 250k
black horse 500k
leopard 750k
tiger 1m
bear 1.25 m
rhino 1.5m
dragon 2m
exp per level is the same for all mounts
here is a chart

		White Horse	Black Horse	leopard	tiger	bear	rhino	dragon
	exp	@250k per feed	@500k per feed	@750k per feed	@1m per feed	@1.25m per feed	@1.5m per feed	@2m per feed
1 star	300	750,000	1,500,000	2,250,000	3,000,000	3,750,000	4,500,000	6,000,000
2 star	600	1,500,000	3,000,000	4,500,000	6,000,000	7,500,000	9,000,000	12,000,000
3 star	1200	3,000,000	6,000,000	9,000,000	12,000,000	15,000,000	18,000,000	24,000,000
4 star	2400	6,000,000	12,000,000	18,000,000	24,000,000	30,000,000	36,000,000	48,000,000
5 star	4800	12,000,000	24,000,000	36,000,000	48,000,000	60,000,000	72,000,000	96,000,000
6 star	9600	24,000,000	48,000,000	72,000,000	96,000,000	120,000,000	144,000,000	192,000,000
7 star	19200	48,000,000	96,000,000	144,000,000	192,000,000	240,000,000	288,000,000	384,000,000
8 star	38400	96,000,000	192,000,000	288,000,000	384,000,000	480,000,000	576,000,000	768,000,000
9 star	76800	192,000,000	384,000,000	576,000,000	768,000,000	960,000,000	1,152,000,000	1,536,000,000
10 star	153600	384,000,000	768,000,000	1,152,000,000	1,536,000,000	1,920,000,000	2,304,000,000	3,072,000,000
11 star	307200	768,000,000	1,536,000,000	2,304,000,000	3,072,000,000	3,840,000,000	4,608,000,000	6,144,000,000
12 star	614400	1,536,000,000	3,072,000,000	4,608,000,000	6,144,000,000	7,680,000,000	9,216,000,000	12,288,000,000
13 star	1228800	3,072,000,000	6,144,000,000	9,216,000,000	12,288,000,000	15,360,000,000	18,432,000,000	24,576,000,000
14 star	2457600	6,144,000,000	12,288,000,000	18,432,000,000	24,576,000,000	30,720,000,000	36,864,000,000	49,152,000,000
15 star	4915200	12,288,000,000	24,576,000,000	36,864,000,000	49,152,000,000	61,440,000,000	73,728,000,000	98,304,000,000
total needed	9830100	24,575,250,000	49,150,500,000	73,725,750,000	98,301,000,000	122,876,250,000	147,451,500,000	196,602,000,000

As you can see a white horse takes 24b coins to get to 15 stars. Now that is achievable in a short time for some big players. but only gives 16k hp which can be achieved with a dragon for a lot less

So the coin costs alone will slow down people along with the common sense approach

I still feel a transfer option should be instituted allowing a player to transfer the amount of coins spent on a mount to another leveling the new mount up by that amount of coins. A germ cost can be charged for a perfect transfer. Or coins for an imperfect which would only transfer 75% of the coins invested.

I think this will not allow people to level up a mount to fast and gain an unreasonable amount of HP too quickly while making the 15 star achievement more likely in a reasonable amount of time

This would be an awesome idea. Then you no longer need to feed multiple mounts, you can choose to invest as much as you want into any one mount. Then people can choose for initial boost (bear) or long term advantage (dragon).

[mattp169]

ok after staring at my chart. I think it would be too easy to get to 9 stars on any mount
so I came up with a new chart. STill makes the first couple stars easy. makes the the middle stars a little tougher, and keeps the over all costs about the same

		White Horse	Black Horse	leopard	tiger	bear	rhino	dragon
	exp	@250k per feed	@500k per feed	@750k per feed	@1m per feed	@1.25m per feed	@1.5m per feed	@2m per feed
1 star	300	750,000	1,500,000	2,250,000	3,000,000	3,750,000	4,500,000	6,000,000
2 star	900	2,250,000	4,500,000	6,750,000	9,000,000	11,250,000	13,500,000	18,000,000
3 star	2700	6,750,000	13,500,000	20,250,000	27,000,000	33,750,000	40,500,000	54,000,000
4 star	5400	13,500,000	27,000,000	40,500,000	54,000,000	67,500,000	81,000,000	108,000,000
5 star	10800	27,000,000	54,000,000	81,000,000	108,000,000	135,000,000	162,000,000	216,000,000
6 star	21600	54,000,000	108,000,000	162,000,000	216,000,000	270,000,000	324,000,000	432,000,000
7 star	43200	108,000,000	216,000,000	324,000,000	432,000,000	540,000,000	648,000,000	864,000,000
8 star	86400	216,000,000	432,000,000	648,000,000	864,000,000	1,080,000,000	1,296,000,000	1,728,000,000
9 star	172800	432,000,000	864,000,000	1,296,000,000	1,728,000,000	2,160,000,000	2,592,000,000	3,456,000,000
10 star	259200	648,000,000	1,296,000,000	1,944,000,000	2,592,000,000	3,240,000,000	3,888,000,000	5,184,000,000
11 star	388800	972,000,000	1,944,000,000	2,916,000,000	3,888,000,000	4,860,000,000	5,832,000,000	7,776,000,000
12 star	583200	1,458,000,000	2,916,000,000	4,374,000,000	5,832,000,000	7,290,000,000	8,748,000,000	11,664,000,000
13 star	1166400	2,916,000,000	5,832,000,000	8,748,000,000	11,664,000,000	14,580,000,000	17,496,000,000	23,328,000,000
14 star	2332800	5,832,000,000	11,664,000,000	17,496,000,000	23,328,000,000	29,160,000,000	34,992,000,000	46,656,000,000
15 star	4665600	11,664,000,000	23,328,000,000	34,992,000,000	46,656,000,000	58,320,000,000	69,984,000,000	93,312,000,000
total needed	9740100	24,350,250,000	48,700,500,000	73,050,750,000	97,401,000,000	121,751,250,000	146,101,500,000	194,802,000,000

[BLITZBLITZWOLF_4797025]

Hi
Thanks all for info and data
I stop using gems for my dragon till 3 stars.
I only use 1 mill coin for feed.
If there is another feature like
DRESSING or UPGRADE ARMOR using with credit 1 mill for 200 exp point 5 time a day
I hope that will be very good for all of us
What is your options? ?

[Nymeria]

How about adding another 5 feed attemps for each star a Mount got. woud keep the feed limit, but raising the limit as people progres through the game.

another idea could be adding more feed attepts after beating royal arena bosses, maybe + 1 or 2 feed