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    Quote Originally Posted by Legolas Bow of Athena View Post
    That would be excellent, I literally hit him more times in his little revenge mode for no coins, credits, or rep than I did in the actually fight. Just frustrating.
    maybe your frustration is because you dont understand the game mechanics during banish. your problem is because during the rage phase it doesnt matter how many times you hit him per round. it counts the total re-entries of all participating players that are at 35 i believe. so if it takes you 8 minutes to take him down you are doing it with roughly 4-5 players. so if you want the rage phase to take only a minute get 30 alts up. however if you really want to get into the next banish stage then agree with your friends to use the 2 and 4 gem revivals. with your 5 players you whould be able to do it then under 5minutes easy.
    also the 10m (not 10k) is randomly determined and not by how much damage you did or how often you hit him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    maybe your frustration is because you dont understand the game mechanics during banish. your problem is because during the rage phase it doesnt matter how many times you hit him per round. it counts the total re-entries of all participating players that are at 35 i believe. so if it takes you 8 minutes to take him down you are doing it with roughly 4-5 players. so if you want the rage phase to take only a minute get 30 alts up. however if you really want to get into the next banish stage then agree with your friends to use the 2 and 4 gem revivals. with your 5 players you whould be able to do it then under 5minutes easy.
    also the 10m (not 10k) is randomly determined and not by how much damage you did or how often you hit him.
    With what your saying a person could hit baal or cerb 1 time at start of rage mode, then stand at the entrance and turn auto fight off doing no further attacks and still win the 10 mill coins lol. I assumed it was just going to the person that hit him on the 35th shot pending that number is accurate. Considering you are not suppose to play more than 1 account per server, my question is why would rage mode encourage people to use 30 alts, they are not suppose to be allowed in the game so they just need to make adjustments to the game mechanics, otherwise every server will be flooded with alts. So again I think this is an easy fix. Assign Baal and Cerb random amounts of hp, whoever gets last hit gets last hit. Yes the biggest hitters would get the last hit more often but when someone with 100k power who is obviously an alt, do they really need to keep winning the 10 million? I've got the best of both worlds, a couple of alts win the 10 mill on top of that we don't get bigger baal or cerb. So if you can fix this dawnseeker that would be great, or i guess i can just have people start spamming alts, it's whatever, just thought i would suggest something to clean the game up and remove the need for a bunch of alts with the attacks of marshmellows.

    also, other people with realms with more people in it are getting like 28k coins per boss fight so I don't even care who wins the 10k coins I'm just ready to be done with revenge mode pointlessly taking a long time and preventing bigger bosses. Just change the last hit to smaller rewards if you want to give away 10k coins twice a day do a realm raffle then boom, everyone is happy and game flows nicely. Trying to get last hit on baal and cerb was one of the fun parts of the game, made peoples adrenaline pump. Most people use stunners so how hard they are going to hit is extremely hard to judge anyway.
    Last edited by Legolas Bow of Athena; 04-20-2014 at 09:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legolas Bow of Athena View Post
    With what your saying a person could hit baal or cerb 1 time at start of rage mode, then stand at the entrance and turn auto fight off doing no further attacks and still win the 10 mill coins lol.
    This is true. I also think it's stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legolas Bow of Athena View Post
    With what your saying a person could hit baal or cerb 1 time at start of rage mode, then stand at the entrance and turn auto fight off doing no further attacks and still win the 10 mill coins lol. I assumed it was just going to the person that hit him on the 35th shot pending that number is accurate. Considering you are not suppose to play more than 1 account per server, my question is why would rage mode encourage people to use 30 alts, they are not suppose to be allowed in the game so they just need to make adjustments to the game mechanics, otherwise every server will be flooded with alts. So again I think this is an easy fix. Assign Baal and Cerb random amounts of hp, whoever gets last hit gets last hit. Yes the biggest hitters would get the last hit more often but when someone with 100k power who is obviously an alt, do they really need to keep winning the 10 million? I've got the best of both worlds, a couple of alts win the 10 mill on top of that we don't get bigger baal or cerb. So if you can fix this dawnseeker that would be great, or i guess i can just have people start spamming alts, it's whatever, just thought i would suggest something to clean the game up and remove the need for a bunch of alts with the attacks of marshmellows.

    also, other people with realms with more people in it are getting like 28k coins per boss fight so I don't even care who wins the 10k coins I'm just ready to be done with revenge mode pointlessly taking a long time and preventing bigger bosses. Just change the last hit to smaller rewards if you want to give away 10k coins twice a day do a realm raffle then boom, everyone is happy and game flows nicely. Trying to get last hit on baal and cerb was one of the fun parts of the game, made peoples adrenaline pump. Most people use stunners so how hard they are going to hit is extremely hard to judge anyway.
    ok first of all, i can top it and tell you that you dont even have to be inside to get the reward, the criteria is having to hit him before and have a little luck.
    now, about the rest of your ranting blahbing and pushing out hot air thru your piehole: stop insulting me when i am trying to help you! i have never told you that you have to have 30 alts or that i even have a single alt! i suggested to you and your friends to use the gem revivals to get thru it fast for once to switch to the next stage if you can rock it. however the re-entry during that stage will take your 5 friends the same time, so you need to kill it within like 50min or less.
    again, its not 28k coins, its maybe 28m coins, i am getting currently 40m+ and that is because its after your damage you do and how many coins are in the pool. the 1.25B HP banish stage got currently 100m (or maybe more, there was some sort of cap i believe done recently but can be wrong on it and then it would be 120m). so your reputation = percentile damage x100, as example, if you do 10% damage you will get 1000 rep as reward on any banish stage. your coins are done by your total damage, so if you do 400m total damage you will get 40m coins. its as simple as that, no magic, no conspiracy against you and no cheating going on, its all straight forward. now if you have no one in your guild to do the banish in your realm then that maybe based on you complaining so much and accusing others.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    ok first of all, i can top it and tell you that you dont even have to be inside to get the reward, the criteria is having to hit him before and have a little luck.
    now, about the rest of your ranting blahbing and pushing out hot air thru your piehole: stop insulting me when i am trying to help you! i have never told you that you have to have 30 alts or that i even have a single alt! i suggested to you and your friends to use the gem revivals to get thru it fast for once to switch to the next stage if you can rock it. however the re-entry during that stage will take your 5 friends the same time, so you need to kill it within like 50min or less.
    again, its not 28k coins, its maybe 28m coins, i am getting currently 40m+ and that is because its after your damage you do and how many coins are in the pool. the 1.25B HP banish stage got currently 100m (or maybe more, there was some sort of cap i believe done recently but can be wrong on it and then it would be 120m). so your reputation = percentile damage x100, as example, if you do 10% damage you will get 1000 rep as reward on any banish stage. your coins are done by your total damage, so if you do 400m total damage you will get 40m coins. its as simple as that, no magic, no conspiracy against you and no cheating going on, its all straight forward. now if you have no one in your guild to do the banish in your realm then that maybe based on you complaining so much and accusing others.
    No actually I have been gone for a couple months due to medical reasons and most people have quit because they just think it's a money hungry game. I have a very strong feeling there are low amounts of people on several realms on several servers. We typically have just under 10 people, just under 15 if we are lucky, we kill baal or cerb in less than 10 minutes and we just sit there and twiddle our thumbs waiting during rage mode for the next 6 to 8 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legolas Bow of Athena View Post
    [...] and most people have quit because they just think it's a money hungry game. [...]
    and for the same reason others stay in the game and feed the developers. i never understood anyways why people go buy x-box games, ps2, ps3, ps4, ps 712, ... waste money of $50+ a month, week, some a day. come to this game game and think its too much to spend $4.95 on maria and then cry its too much to spend $19.95 on her later on. call players "coiners" that enjoy the game. you can play the game for free if you so choose and i think its rather annoying your flood of suggestions to take the daily bread out of the mouth of the game makers. you play it too, dont you? and play other games too, no? so man up and spend a little money on your hobby.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legolas Bow of Athena View Post
    [...] I have a very strong feeling there are low amounts of people on several realms on several servers. We typically have just under 10 people, just under 15 if we are lucky, we kill baal or cerb in less than 10 minutes and we just sit there and twiddle our thumbs waiting during rage mode for the next 6 to 8 minutes.[...]
    thats just your perspective, on our server (and its rather younger) we have 10-15 per banish and kill the 1.25B in roughly 40minutes. so i suggest to improve your form, get stronger and start owning it.
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    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildflower View Post
    Why hit him over and over again anyway since it is determined before the animations of final round are done.
    i dont know if its true but i think that has been implemented to avoid them bouncing up and down and switching bosses over and over. for example today they beat the 50m in time to fail on the 250m because someone "called in sick" and then next day they beat the 50m again in like 5 minutes... we are on the 1.25B one and you can literally feel a low attendance and when it gets close and comes down to the wire if we can kill it in time or not. i dont think the 2-3 minutes for the rage round make any difference, even tho i agree on not liking it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    i dont know if its true but i think that has been implemented to avoid them bouncing up and down and switching bosses over and over. for example today they beat the 50m in time to fail on the 250m because someone "called in sick" and then next day they beat the 50m again in like 5 minutes... we are on the 1.25B one and you can literally feel a low attendance and when it gets close and comes down to the wire if we can kill it in time or not. i dont think the 2-3 minutes for the rage round make any difference, even tho i agree on not liking it.
    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    ok first of all, i can top it and tell you that you dont even have to be inside to get the reward, the criteria is having to hit him before and have a little luck.
    This is what I ment.
    I know this to be true and thus it must be predetermined as soon as the rage stage happens.
    Why the need to draw it out for multiple rounds is beyond me.
    It does in no way help the bouncing, in fact for most servers it apparently makes them bounce continuesly when someone calls in sick .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    so if you want the rage phase to take only a minute get 30 alts up

    wouldn't that be against the TOS and considered cheating? Just wondering, but how many zombies are there in Tynon? They should change the name of this game to Zombie Nation or something.

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    and remove the wait time between phase 1 and two please its a waste of time, and just make it harder to progress to next tier WB

    and the 2 min. wait in the beginning plz

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