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    [QUOTE=Andy;50597]

    [/SIZE]Banish Cerberus and Baal[SIZE=2]
    The 'last hit' reward of 10 million coins is now a 'lottery'. The way it works is that after Cerb/Baal is killed every one is moved to the starting position and a new 1 minute cool-down starts. During this phase, also known as rage phase, the Boss can not be stunned and starts with 100% morale. The phase ends when there has been ??? attacks (not round within an attack) on the Boss. The damage done is not taken into consideration. Once the phase end anyone that participated on the phase is eligible for the 100 Million coin lottery. The order of finishing or the rewards that are based on damage done (Credits, Coins, and Reputation) is not affected by the Rahe phase.

    Note that if the Boos is you killed before the Rage phase ends there is no bonus but you still get the regular rewards. Also note that the requirement that the Boss be beaten in 15 minutes to move up to the higher level Boss includes the Rage phase.

    The plan drops that the first 3 places get are the same as what highest HR Boos that the player has beaten gives out.

    The Bosses are now more resistant to Critical attacks. [QUOTE=Andy;50597]

    Andy, you asked us to proof read this for you and I think I found a mistake where you say players are eligible for the 100 million coin lottery , i think it is 10 million coin lottery

    Also I highlighted another thing which sounded like a form of gibberish to me, I dont think it is Boos maybe rather Boss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post

    [/SIZE]Banish Cerberus and Baal[SIZE=2]
    The 'last hit' reward of 10 million coins is now a 'lottery'. The way it works is that after Cerb/Baal is killed every one is moved to the starting position and a new 1 minute cool-down starts. During this phase, also known as rage phase, the Boss can not be stunned and starts with 100% morale. The phase ends when there has been ??? attacks (not round within an attack) on the Boss. The damage done is not taken into consideration. Once the phase end anyone that participated on the phase is eligible for the 100 Million coin lottery. The order of finishing or the rewards that are based on damage done (Credits, Coins, and Reputation) is not affected by the Rahe phase.

    Note that if the Boos is you killed before the Rage phase ends there is no bonus but you still get the regular rewards. Also note that the requirement that the Boss be beaten in 15 minutes to move up to the higher level Boss includes the Rage phase.

    The plan drops that the first 3 places get are the same as what highest HR Boos that the player has beaten gives out.

    The Bosses are now more resistant to Critical attacks.

    Andy, you asked us to proof read this for you and I think I found a mistake where you say players are eligible for the 100 million coin lottery , i think it is 10 million coin lottery

    Also I highlighted another thing which sounded like a form of gibberish to me, I dont think it is Boos maybe rather Boss?
    Thanks, fixed
    Last edited by Andy; 04-24-2014 at 01:47 PM.
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    It's not a huge change to strategy and gameplay, but one of the questions I had to explain several times to the ones who came back is how the hero inn works. How to take a hero out, and how to put one back in.

    Guide looks great so far.

    Some other things:

    Plans dropped now give the top two rewards, making it easier to get relic plans.

    Daily rep limit has been increased to 2k rep.
    Last edited by g346007_1906957; 04-24-2014 at 02:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    It's not a huge change to strategy and gameplay, but one of the questions I had to explain several times to the ones who came back is how the hero inn works. How to take a hero out, and how to put one back in.

    Guide looks great so far.

    Some other things:

    Plans dropped now give the top two rewards, making it easier to get relic plans.

    Daily rep limit has been increased to 2k rep.
    I do not understand whet you mean by the top two rewards. It gives whatever plans the highest HR Boss you have beaten gives. Most Bosses give out two different plans, but some give out three.

    The Heroes' Inn section is coming. I will explain the mechanics there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    I do not understand whet you mean by the top two rewards. It gives whatever plans the highest HR Boss you have beaten gives. Most Bosses give out two different plans, but some give out three.

    The Heroes' Inn section is coming. I will explain the mechanics there.
    It seems to me that he is refering to HC bosses. they only got a chance of dropping 2 different plans now (a few 3) instead of 5 - Thus making it easier to get relic plans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    I do not understand whet you mean by the top two rewards. It gives whatever plans the highest HR Boss you have beaten gives. Most Bosses give out two different plans, but some give out three.

    The Heroes' Inn section is coming. I will explain the mechanics there.

    It used to be that you were eligible for for say a relic plan, but could still be given a sword, now you get either a cloak or relic, chestguard or sword, helm or cloak, etc. So now when you beat veleno and then get top 3 in banish you'll get either a cloak or relic instead of a sword...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrthCaedus View Post
    It used to be that you were eligible for for say a relic plan, but could still be given a sword, now you get either a cloak or relic, chestguard or sword, helm or cloak, etc. So now when you beat veleno and then get top 3 in banish you'll get either a cloak or relic instead of a sword...
    That is what I said. If the highest boss you have beaten is Veleno, you get whatever Veleno gives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Weekly Events
    Every week there is a different event. There are not the kind of events that you actively participate in, but game features that are available for that day. Click on the Weekly Events Icon for more information.
    It is worth noting that because you get Gems as sailing rewards a lot of the servers have a 'truce' on Saturdays so there are no sinking. make sure you ask the members of your Guild id there is such a truce on your server.

    tavern event has changed and gives now double spirits and the same amount for purple and gold card spawns

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    Banish Cerberus and Baal
    The 'last hit' reward of 10 million coins is now a 'lottery'. The way it works is that after Cerb/Baal is killed every one is moved to the starting position and a new 1 minute cool-down starts. During this phase, also known as rage phase, the Boss can not be stunned and starts with 100% morale. The phase ends when there has been ??? attacks (not round within an attack) on the Boss. The damage done is not taken into consideration. Anyone that actively participated (attacked the Boss at least once) on the rage phase is eligible for the 10 Million coin lottery. The order of finishing or the rewards that are based on damage done (Credits, Coins, and Reputation) is not affected by the Rage phase.

    Note that if the Boss is not killed before the Rage phase ends there is no bonus but you still get the regular rewards. Also note that the requirement that the Boss be beaten in 15 minutes to move up to the higher level Boss includes the Rage phase.

    The plan drops that the first 3 places get are the same as what highest HR Boss that the player has beaten gives out.

    The Bosses are now more resistant to Critical attacks.


    - 10m "last hit" is predetermined at the start of the rage phase
    - decreasing the morale and increasing your hit count doesnt influence the result
    - 30-35 entries
    (- reputation = percentage of damage x100)
    - 15min kill time INCLUDES the ragephase
    - in addition to the plans: 1st place gets lv4 chip, 2-3 lv3, 6-10 lv2 chips
    - "The Bosses are now more resistant to Critical attacks." -> more resistant to stun attacks

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    Sailing on the Caribbean
    You get 1/2 of the rewards when you set sail and the other 1/2 when you finish. This means that if your boat is sunk you still get 1/2 of the rewards. This includes 1/2 the Gems on Saturdays. Note that to satisfy the Assistant requirement you must have at least one complete sail.

    The number of sails that can be started on a day is now four.
    you can now get 2 additional maps from the assistant giving you 3/day
    (i am aware this is redundant with the assistant rewards mentioned below but think it needs to be mentioned here as well)


    ps: great work andy! what would we do without you...
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    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    tavern event has changed and gives now double spirits and the same amount for purple and gold card spawns



    - 10m "last hit" is predetermined at the start of the rage phase - Some of the players in my realm, me included, exit to Aerie City when the Rage phase starts but before the first attack. We have never received the 10 mil reward. It could be coincidence, but we have been doing it for a while.
    - decreasing the morale and increasing your hit count doesnt influence the result - I explains that by saying "The damage done is not taken into consideration."
    - 30-35 entries - Are you saying that the number of attacks needed to end the Rage phase is variable?
    (- reputation = percentage of damage x100)
    - 15min kill time INCLUDES the ragephase - "Also note that the requirement that the Boss be beaten in 15 minutes to move up to the higher level Boss includes the Rage phase." says that.
    - in addition to the plans: 1st place gets lv4 chip, 2-3 lv3, 6-10 lv2 chips
    - "The Bosses are now more resistant to Critical attacks." -> more resistant to stun attacks


    you can now get 2 additional maps from the assistant giving you 3/day
    (i am aware this is redundant with the assistant rewards mentioned below but think it needs to be mentioned here as well)


    ps: great work andy! what would we do without you...
    I made comments in red withing the quoted text. I thought it would be less confusing that to try to explain here what the comment was for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    I made comments in red withing the quoted text. I thought it would be less confusing that to try to explain here what the comment was for.
    lol for you it does and gets complicated for me to respond lol

    - 10m "last hit" is predetermined at the start of the rage phase - Some of the players in my realm, me included, exit to Aerie City when the Rage phase starts but before the first attack. We have never received the 10 mil reward. It could be coincidence, but we have been doing it for a while.
    correct, its predetermined at the start of the rage phase, who done damage in the first round at least once and entered the rage round is eligible (after you entered once and went to town you can still get the 10m WHILE in town)

    - decreasing the morale and increasing your hit count doesnt influence the result - I explains that by saying "The damage done is not taken into consideration."
    talking about individual hits not dealt damage

    - 30-35 entries - Are you saying that the number of attacks needed to end the Rage phase is variable?
    i think it varies on certain banishes and think the lower ones have 35 and the top one got 30, which would explain why we keep on getting fed both numbers. since i can not say for certain which it is but now its either or between i say 30-35 (thats definitely more accurate than xxx! jk)

    - 15min kill time INCLUDES the ragephase - "Also note that the requirement that the Boss be beaten in 15 minutes to move up to the higher level Boss includes the Rage phase." says that.
    correct
    (ps: to developers: if its supposed to be fixed at 15minutes, it would be nice not to have it start with a 2min delay that gives you an actual 13minutes timer and not 15)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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