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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorn View Post
    You are talking nonsense in the vast majority of this post, stop trying to spread incorrect information.
    stay on topic and stop trolling or hold your peace

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    Well I have never seen herja miss. Even at low levels, it should not change any game dynamics. They are support class and as I understand it, they have 100% chance to land their skill on both supporting formation and the opponent.

    Also I thought I have seen Blood's skill dodged before, but I have not seen it "blocked"

    In fact I don't recall seeing any "skills" from melee classes "blocked" I have seen them "dodged" but never blocked.
    for the record, by the speed you paid yourself to the top i doubt that you have watched even 1% of the battles that other players at the same level have watched and you meant that AOE skills (like adams) can be blocked/missed/dodged but not counterattacked and yw
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    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Let's stay on topic. This is a Prophet Ezekiel thread and discussion on Bloodstorm, Herja or any other Hero does not belong here unless it is to compare their abilities to Eze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Let's stay on topic. This is a Prophet Ezekiel thread and discussion on Bloodstorm, Herja or any other Hero does not belong here unless it is to compare their abilities to Eze.
    unfortunately i have to admit that this is here the case. some here seem to read inbetween lines and assume that ezk can miss his skill like the early herja because they have the same skill. others say that skills cant be blocked ever because they assume that all skills are the same and its about "skill or not skill". fortunately the game is more complex than that.
    however i give in and agree that posts about herja and any other hero belong somewhere else but ask for an exception since ezk and herja have the same skill but differ in passive skills and stats.
    as for ezk vs herja themselves we all agree on that ezk is much more superior than herja since ezk's base p.def/s.def/m.def are superior while ezk gets 30% physical and skill resistance bonuses (yes there is a difference between defense and resistance), however the 40% magic resistance of herja i would prefer if ezk wouldnt have an even higher dodge rate than herja, so to me it would be a really tough call unless tynon would be designed to be more "mage friendly", so ezk is the obvious and by far better choice; to answer the OP's original questioin.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot View Post
    Well I have never seen herja miss. Even at low levels, it should not change any game dynamics. They are support class and as I understand it, they have 100% chance to land their skill on both supporting formation and the opponent.

    Also I thought I have seen Blood's skill dodged before, but I have not seen it "blocked"

    In fact I don't recall seeing any "skills" from melee classes "blocked" I have seen them "dodged" but never blocked.
    however I immidiatly transfered someone to her so.. .
    Agree on all accounts, I have never seen Herja miss either or any skill attack being blocked.
    The reason to switch Herja and Ezel for me is that the big guy is harder to kill because of previous mentioned additions, thus giving me more skill attacks for the team.
    Though... Herja does look better ^^.
    Last edited by Wildflower; 06-26-2014 at 09:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    unfortunately i have to admit that this is here the case. some here seem to read inbetween lines and assume that ezk can miss his skill like the early herja because they have the same skill. others say that skills cant be blocked ever because they assume that all skills are the same and its about "skill or not skill". fortunately the game is more complex than that.
    however i give in and agree that posts about herja and any other hero belong somewhere else but ask for an exception since ezk and herja have the same skill but differ in passive skills and stats.
    as for ezk vs herja themselves we all agree on that ezk is much more superior than herja since ezk's base p.def/s.def/m.def are superior while ezk gets 30% physical and skill resistance bonuses (yes there is a difference between defense and resistance), however the 40% magic resistance of herja i would prefer if ezk wouldnt have an even higher dodge rate than herja, so to me it would be a really tough call unless tynon would be designed to be more "mage friendly", so ezk is the obvious and by far better choice; to answer the OP's original questioin.
    You would prefer to have 40% resistance to a damage type that is minimal when compared with the potential physical/skill damage coming from an opponents team? Interesting...

    Looking at your post count and how much of it actually useful to the general public... Lets not go the troll route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorn View Post
    You would prefer to have 40% resistance to a damage type that is minimal when compared with the potential physical/skill damage coming from an opponents team? Interesting...

    Looking at your post count and how much of it actually useful to the general public... Lets not go the troll route.
    Herja/Ez sit in the back. For just about all pvm, the magic defense is better. For pvp, I would prefer the skill/physical resist.

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    EZ K is actually a great tank if one plays it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post


    for the record, by the speed you paid yourself to the top i doubt that you have watched even 1% of the battles that other players at the same level

    I am the one who set the formation to kill EZ K from the beginning that everyone is using. Why would I watch others use my formation to kill it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot View Post
    I am the one who set the formation to kill EZ K from the beginning that everyone is using. Why would I watch others use my formation to kill it?
    you are either ignoring the point on purpose or not getting it. beating a boss with superior power is not the point here. also be honest to yourself and ask how many battles you have watched compared to others. back in our days before you started playing there was no "result" button and we spent days in HR doing what we/others do now in an hour. i wasnt talking about your ezk form or how bad it is (having to dodge/evade multiple times and to rely on crits in a series of multiple events is not a good form) or how usefull. the point was that players dont watch battles anymore like they used to and if there is an event that happens 1:1000 then you are the first to jump on the bandwagon and say "i have never seen it happen" but guess what, no one cares if you have seen anything in the 5 events that you watched in the time you started to pay for the game. there is others who actually enjoy playing and have their own opinion about things and dont take answers granted from other players. especially you - andy could be saying something today and herby would say its not like that the next day and then someone else would add something to it on the third day and i would bet that you would agree to all 3 over the three days.


    ps: I have seen what i have seen what happened with herja and i never said it happened with ezk. also ezk is superior over herja, however there is situations where i prefer the 40% magic resistance over ezk's p.def/s.def, especially in pve situations. i was also the first (from day #1) to suggest to put a tank setup on herja (and later ezk) especially because all you need is a cheap sword and you can switch them out for saff or ahmose and because you have the open rune slot anyways you might as well add a preciseness so the slot isnt lost because saff/ahmose dont want to miss their defensive skills.
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 07-02-2014 at 11:04 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Kaisim you started a month before I did. When i started there was no results button either.

    Back to the OP. No Herja and EZ K cannot miss. end of discussion. If you saw it miss, it was a graphics bug on your end. It happens.

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