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    Banish Cap - Yes another thread

    Why did I start a new thread?
    Simple Things have changed alot since the cap was introduced. SO lets talk about this with fresh eyes and all the new things out there.

    Whats different?

    1. Mounts are worth buying.
    2. Mounts cost coins everyday to upgrade.
    3. You can transfer mount exp now
    4. def runes now go to 12
    5. level cap on talents and black smith has increased
    6. Second sub is now in play.

    SO just looking at all those things. EVERYONE needs more income.

    NOw look at this scenario which will happen in the next say 2 weeks on server 1.

    Forest real has 2 players that do on average every single day 50% of the banish damage between them - Yes one is me the other is spec.
    then the next 2 players do about 25-30% of the damage

    Then the rest of the damage is divided up among on average 40 players.

    Now we have been very careful not to trigger 6.25b - since it will only cause us to be stuck there for an hour and NOONE will get anything extra out of it - In fact most would probably get slightly less. for 5 times the effort.

    Once Spec and I get our second subs in play in the next 2 weeks - based on the increase I see from Boo's damage- I estimate we will go from doing 50% of the total damage to 75% or more

    Then with the next 2 top players doing most of the rest of the damage - WHAT does that leave for the other 40 players in the realm.
    ALOT less then they get now. How are those players suppose to grow?

    Look I get that on some newer servers there was that 1 player who could get 50-70% of the banish damage by himself. But those servers are far and few between. And I seriously doubt the cap has really allowed other players to catch up that much.

    This cap is only hurting EVERYONE but those few select players like blayd, legion commander etc who are on small servers who can do most of the damage in a banish. And no im not picking on Blayd or anyone else who happens to be on a small server. But they are the only ones not seriously effected. Heavily populated servers like server 1 are getting the shaft on this

    Its time to remove the cap. Let the heavily populated servers go on to 6.25b banish without it being pointless.

    If you want to make it so the pool is only 500m coins in a 6.25b fine
    Or
    Make the next banish be 2.5b with no cap followed by a 3.75, then a 5b, then a 6.25b all with no cap

    OR a 2.5b with a cap of 200m coins then a 3.75b banish with a 300m coin cap, then 5b with a 400m coin cap, the a 6.25b with a 500m cap.

    The banish progression does not have to go up by 5 every time. Which is one of the concerns with the coin increase. People go from 20-25m coins a banish to 100m or more a banish if you go from 1.25 to 6.25b in one step.

    Now granted if a realm can right now take out a 1.25b in 15mins. Its likely they can do the other progressions I suggested in the next 30-60 days and be at the 6.25b. But that helps everyone on the server and the realm.

    Please get rid of this flat out 100m coin/60m credit cap on all banishes. It is going to start hurting many players very soon.

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    i agree completely! +1 for this!

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    I benefit greatly from banish caps, and it's really stupid. I am getting 80m+ from cerb now (baal still needs upgrading), since I am from an underpopulated realm/server and it's pretty unfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    I benefit greatly from banish caps, and it's really stupid. I am getting 80m+ from cerb now (baal still needs upgrading), since I am from an underpopulated realm/server and it's pretty unfair.
    How is you getting 80% of the damage UNFAIR

    You probably coined and played smart to get that powerful. Its fair for you to do as much damage as you can.

    Why do people think because a few players can do alot of damage that this is an unfair situation? Did they cheat and hack the servers to get that much damage? NO! They got powerful. SO why are they now being punished for getting more powerful and spending money on the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    How is you getting 80% of the damage UNFAIR

    You probably coined and played smart to get that powerful. Its fair for you to do as much damage as you can.

    Why do people think because a few players can do alot of damage that this is an unfair situation? Did they cheat and hack the servers to get that much damage? NO! They got powerful. SO why are they now being punished for getting more powerful and spending money on the game?
    It's unfair because I mainly got there because the people stronger than me moved to other realms or quit. I think it gives me an unfair advantage over the people from servers 1-10, who will never be able to get that high %.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    It's unfair because I mainly got there because the people stronger than me moved to other realms or quit. I think it gives me an unfair advantage over the people from servers 1-10, who will never be able to get that high %.
    Oh now your getting to the crux of another issue with the cap.

    See most of the top players on 1-10 are heavily invested on their server and are unlikely to start a new server to catch up to blayd and spend even more money.

    So I dont think you getting 80% or anyone getting 80% of the banish damage is unfair to your server, SINCE ITS UNDERPOPULATED AND YOU NEED MERGED.
    But it does give you an advantage over players for 1-10. Because we are too heavily populated to have 1 person do 80% of the damage- Although it could be possible if we realm jumped just the right way to align the server to allow 1 player on the server to do it. However we are too competitive to do that. And it will cost other players significant damage.

    Now is this advantage you get over server 1-10 unfair??? NOPE. Its bull**** and wrong for uCool to treat the older servers this way. But it snot unfair its how the game was setup and nerfed.

    SO even considering what you say is UNFAIR - Its not unfair for any reason. You deserve what you get because you earn it. But servers 1-10 are getting screwed in so many ways with this cap. ANd iwth many other things in the game.

    Some of which could be solved with some seriously massive merges - and not thos emerges they did last time that was nothing.

    I say all servers get merged so that there is at least 100 active players (and not alts - and yes tynon knows which are which - they just cant prove it) per realm per server. Which imo means server 1 even needs a merge Because we are close to that in some realms but not quite.

    I mean whats the point of a level 8 guild being able to hold 100 members if there arent even 100 players on the server?

    If they did a round of merges like this - Alot of us would be crying out for the 31.25b banish in a month or 2 with no cap. This will also seriously limit the growth of those players who are basically on a dead server doing 80% of banish damage - meaning NO NEED FOR A CAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    Now is this advantage you get over server 1-10 unfair??? NOPE. Its bull**** and wrong for uCool to treat the older servers this way. But it snot unfair its how the game was setup and nerfed..
    Don't include servers 2-10 on your personal rant.

    No one from servers 2-10 is complaining here. Not even from other realms in server 1.

    It's just you.


    If you want more coins and credits, move out from forest realm. and spin the casino a lot more.

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    They could also increase income from other events and/or add new events so that banish doesn't become an event where you must show up or you will fall far behind the other players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revan View Post
    They could also increase income from other events and/or add new events so that banish doesn't become an event where you must show up or you will fall far behind the other players.
    This ^^^^^^

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    there is a lot reason to if not remove a cap on baal then atleast increase it. The 6,25 banish should have a higher reward than the 1,25 banish, i dont think any player would disagree on that

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