Banish Cap - Yes another thread

[kaisim_2492829]

I don't understand the arguments that the cap "hurts" anyone. It affects all players equally. If you think the cap is harmful in some way, couldn't you make the same argument about every single thing in the game not giving you more rewards? "Pirates doesn't give 1000 gems for an attempted sail, this hurts all players." Its the exact same argument.

The reality is that we have to keep things in balance and not allow any single event to become so important that it makes other events inconsequential. Removing the cap would be the same thing as increasing the rewards by 5x for 2 events out of 50+ that we offer. We're not going to do this, sorry.

There are lots of things to do in the game besides Banish. If the rewards in any of them are not in line with the cost, effort, and time required, then we'll totally look into changing them. But Banish has an extremely good reward for the small amount of time and effort required. If anything, it should be reduced further. I doubt we'd do this, but there's absolutely no justification whatsoever for increasing the already-incredible rewards for this event.

tl;dr: it ain't gonna happen.

exactly, tyvm and we had enough redundancy

PS: start increasing the chip levels for 1.25 and 6.25 Banishes

[Joker]

exactly, tyvm and we had enough redundancy

PS: start increasing the chip levels for 1.25 and 6.25 Banishes

yea i agree with that one level of a a chip is worth quite a lot

[andresitocharrua_4533739]

But Banish has an extremely good reward for the small amount of time and effort required.

I beg to differ the event it self requires little effort but the cost and months of building heroes specifically for banish require alot of effort I have 3 heros that I use for banish only (they seem to have been developed for this propose) so am I to stop working on them because they will not help me any further?

The reality is that we have to keep things in balance

The issue here is "balance" populated servers are getting less income than less populated servers, there have been a number of suggestion on here that could help with this issue but you guys are burying your head in the sand and saying there's no problem.
This would not be an issue on individual servers but with the introduction of CW (the main event) it is, less populated servers are out pacing the rest of us. So Dawn can you please take this a little more seriously and look into it thank you.

[Revan]

I beg to differ the event it self requires little effort but the cost and months of building heroes specifically for banish require alot of effort I have 3 heros that I use for banish only (they seem to have been developed for this propose) so am I to stop working on them because they will not help me any further?



The issue here is "balance" populated servers are getting less income than less populated servers, there have been a number of suggestion on here that could help with this issue but you guys are burying your head in the sand and saying there's no problem.
This would not be an issue on individual servers but with the introduction of CW (the main event) it is, less populated servers are out pacing the rest of us. So Dawn can you please take this a little more seriously and look into it thank you.

LOL CW the main event?!?. It is not you silly goose (unless you happen to be one of the few who has a reasonable shot at making it farther than 2 or 3 rounds).

[andresitocharrua_4533739]

LOL CW the main event?!?. It is not you silly goose (unless you happen to be one of the few who has a reasonable shot at making it farther than 2 or 3 rounds).

Yes I am but I understand your point, what would you say the "main event " is? CW is the only reason someone would go to an empty server, I tried but got bored of talking to myself (very one sided conversation). I play the game to advance and while I still am it is getting slower while people on less populated server's have overtaken me simply because they are getting more income from banish and I believe the US servers are the same is why you are seeing others overtaking people that have been playing alot longer, the more populated servers can not keep up and that is a problem (unbalanced).

[Deucalion]

I don't understand the arguments that the cap "hurts" anyone. It affects all players equally. If you think the cap is harmful in some way, couldn't you make the same argument about every single thing in the game not giving you more rewards? "Pirates doesn't give 1000 gems for an attempted sail, this hurts all players." Its the exact same argument.

The reality is that we have to keep things in balance and not allow any single event to become so important that it makes other events inconsequential. Removing the cap would be the same thing as increasing the rewards by 5x for 2 events out of 50+ that we offer. We're not going to do this, sorry.

There are lots of things to do in the game besides Banish. If the rewards in any of them are not in line with the cost, effort, and time required, then we'll totally look into changing them. But Banish has an extremely good reward for the small amount of time and effort required. If anything, it should be reduced further. I doubt we'd do this, but there's absolutely no justification whatsoever for increasing the already-incredible rewards for this event.

tl;dr: it ain't gonna happen.

Do you play Tynon, Dawn?

55 mins for 5m coins/2.5 m credits or if you refresh it's double that, is not "extremely good rewards"
There is no balance, there is no fairness. Pirates never gave us 1000 gems per sail, so that arguement doesn't work. The problem is that banish keeps giving less and less rewards. At one point you could say the rewards were extremely good, but it hasn't been that way in some time.

The communication problem here is simple. Not enough people are affected yet. Once 50% of the servers see what's happening, maybe then YOU will get it.


Ty for your response. Now that I know It will take me 75 days to earn the coins I need to take the next step in this game, even with coining like mad, I'm not so sure I want too.

[Kitiara_3214881]

Do you play Tynon, Dawn?

55 mins for 5m coins/2.5 m credits or if you refresh it's double that, is not "extremely good rewards"
There is no balance, there is no fairness. Pirates never gave us 1000 gems per sail, so that arguement doesn't work. The problem is that banish keeps giving less and less rewards. At one point you could say the rewards were extremely good, but it hasn't been that way in some time.

The communication problem here is simple. Not enough people are affected yet. Once 50% of the servers see what's happening, maybe then YOU will get it.


Ty for your response. Now that I know It will take me 75 days to earn the coins I need to take the next step in this game, even with coining like mad, I'm not so sure I want too.

Whats your power that you're only getting 5M coins in 55mins of banish? Sounds like you slacked on Lightbringer gear. Not Dawns fault.

[Deucalion]

Whats your power that you're only getting 5M coins in 55mins of banish? Sounds like you slacked on Lightbringer gear. Not Dawns fault.

lol

Much higher than LB gear and it has nothing to do with my power, which is over 300m in Banish form. I'm on server 1 where we are packed with high power players.

And... I didn't say it was Dawns fault.

Thanks for your useless input.

BTW: This is why nobody understand what is happening. You obviously do not have the 6.25 banish with 20+ power players in your realm.

[ChickenWing]

lol

Much higher than LB gear and it has nothing to do with my power, which is over 300m in Banish form. I'm on server 1 where we are packed with high power players.

And... I didn't say it was Dawns fault.

Thanks for your useless input.

BTW: This is why nobody understand what is happening. You obviously do not have the 6.25 banish with 20+ power players in your realm.

The cap should be per player, not per realm. Putting a maximum of 100M coins to be shared among players, regardless of the amount of players participating, and regardless of the banish size, does not seem to make sense.

The individual cap should also raise with the size of the banish.

50M banish: 10M coin cap
250M banish: 20M coin cap
1.25B banish: 40M coin cap
6.25B banish: 60M coin cap

[mattp169]

The cap should be per player, not per realm. Putting a maximum of 100M coins to be shared among players, regardless of the amount of players participating, and regardless of the banish size, does not seem to make sense.

The individual cap should also raise with the size of the banish.

50M banish: 10M coin cap
250M banish: 20M coin cap
1.25B banish: 40M coin cap
6.25B banish: 60M coin cap

There are so many BETTER ways to handle the problem. Wait what is the problem that required the cap to be put in place?
Was it small population servers getting more coins then larger population servers.
was it some players getting too much form banish so the devs wanted to slow us down.?
Was it theres just too many players on some servers and they want some one those people to go to new servers and spend more money?

Im not really sure why the cap is in place. Because no reason except driving players to quit or move to new servers fits the current cap model. SO if there were other reasons, the plan needs rethought out