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Thread: ABUSIVE SPAM ATTACKS IN WOLD EVENTS BY ALT LOW LEVEL PLAYERS. Need a FIX

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    to riverbummer: i have reported you for forum abuse, language , etc
    i cant believe my first thoughts where "whoa that poor kid" and now i only say to you: karma is a b... and what goes around comes around.
    There you go again using the B word while hypocritically whining about abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsteven007_297771 View Post
    Have you tried talking to and reasoning with this guy? Eventually hitting you over and over again from an alt guild will get boring. I have to agree with the 5 gem shield though and it's not asking too much (saying that as a non-coiner). Pretty much everything that helps you in the game costs gems, why would shielding yourself be different? I think for the time being, you'll have to deal with them hitting you. Sorry that it happens, has been brought up many times in the past in forums. Maybe something will be changed in game to help with the alt problem, maybe not. Only time will tell.
    Have you tried reasoning with and talking to a game bug or design deficiency? Why should anyone be extorted into buying gems just to shield oneself from an annoying gnat? The game design foolishly empowers noobs to make a nuisance of themselves by a poor rank handicap system. That's a defect in the handicap system that can not help the lower players and punishes high ranking players. I am 95 levels ABOVE this twerp and because of the irrational game implementation I can not even hit him back (save one revenge in 12 hrs) and must suffer the game abuse of being hit to no gain for him and only annoyance to me. In any game no matter what circumstances may exist in the social dynamic and sway of emotions there will always be immature miscreants who take pleasure in exploiting any avenue possible to annoy and spam others to extort attention or to derive some arcane and perverse pleasure from it. The game developers have an obligation to minimize this sort of nuance play and abuse without using occasions of abuse as a means to generate income to stop it (shield gems). The normal online game standards in the gaming community are that rank and power grant increasing privilege not punitive handicaps that empower the lowest players to invoke misery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020 View Post
    Preventing 20+ levels under from attacking won't really solve the spam-attack abuse -- it will only still allow smaller players within 20 levels to spam attack.
    This is why a 5-minute cooldown (just like the Carribean Pirates' attack cooldowns) is a better solution to the spam-attacking.
    Well I am pleased that you finally came around and implicitly agree that there is a glaring game design deficiency here that permits anyone to harass and take away from enjoyable game play.
    I don't care what solution is utilized as long as it works.

    I would rather see no permitted PvP attacking in World Events at all. Most servers socially ostracize it and police it by sinking violators on sight. There's a certain game civility and etiquette in play on most servers. For example revenging during GW just to try to do a blind preemption on someone's attack is considered very poor form. But its always those who are low power and are desperate to feel relevant who exploit these annoyance avenues to "get even". That is what REVENGE is supposed to be for. While revenge can also be gamed to be an annoyance feature it at least has a one shot effect with that long period cool down (12 hrs). The game should be consistent in how it deals with revenge IMHO.

    A cool down of 1 hr would solve it outright too. Or just limit it to one single attack or none.

    What makes NO sense is letting weak low level players endlessly attack and annoy high level players like the skinny kid at the beach with no way to stop it.

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    ugh, head hurts from reading thread. must...look away..from big words.

    Alts are bad, spam attacks are bad and Riverbummer is a realbummer, ban them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverBummer View Post
    There you go again using the B word while hypocritically whining about abuse.
    i have not called you names, what are you talking about? its a saying that "karma is a b..." if i wanted to insult you as you did to me i would have said "you are a b..." but i did not.
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    After reading through this thread, this is what conclusion I came too.

    • Maybe it's time Tynon looked at alts, since they are becoming more of a problem by the day
    • The 10 attack/revenges allowance per day is fine as it is. Allows some PvP in the wilds without over-excessive farming of alts
    • If you are being pestered in Banish, then your best option (at least for the immediate future)is to shield up for the bargain price of 5 gems


    I think that covers it .

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    I don't think that attacks or revenges should happen while you are in Cerberus or Baal banishes, or GW. There are lower powered players who leave their toons unattended in the wild and get attacked. This is a part of the game. Instead of getting their power up and taking revenge they just repeatedly revenge during these events. It is chicken sh*t for a player to do that. For me it forces a refresh and costs me a lot. It isn't a bigger player hitting me and taking my loot it is a low level player affecting a big loss on me rather than doing it the right way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrollsWarrior_4733092 View Post
    I don't think that attacks or revenges should happen while you are in Cerberus or Baal banishes, or GW. There are lower powered players who leave their toons unattended in the wild and get attacked. This is a part of the game. Instead of getting their power up and taking revenge they just repeatedly revenge during these events. It is chicken sh*t for a player to do that. For me it forces a refresh and costs me a lot. It isn't a bigger player hitting me and taking my loot it is a low level player affecting a big loss on me rather than doing it the right way.
    This is simply part of the game! If your server can't come up with an agreement to not attack during those times, then you need to use the shield option. It's irritating, agreed, but it still is part of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JezebelMD_6540395 View Post
    This is simply part of the game! If your server can't come up with an agreement to not attack during those times, then you need to use the shield option. It's irritating, agreed, but it still is part of the game.
    But should it be part of the game? I think the great majority of the players would probably say that it should not be.
    The opinions expressed on this post are my own as a player, not as a Moderator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    After reading through this thread, this is what conclusion I came too.

    • Maybe it's time Tynon looked at alts, since they are becoming more of a problem by the day
    • The 10 attack/revenges allowance per day is fine as it is. Allows some PvP in the wilds without over-excessive farming of alts
    • If you are being pestered in Banish, then your best option (at least for the immediate future)is to shield up for the bargain price of 5 gems


    I think that covers it .
    It's not fine for terminal wrath-mode state of Baal/Cerb. A low alt can attack 10 times - sufficient to thoroughly interfere with last-hit sequence that rarely goes more than 10 rounds anyway and parasitically steal the coin more often than the defective "random" logic already does.

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