Ulterior Motive: Response to Banish Cap threads

[Riot]

That works as well. A moderate increase in the cap for coins/credits would be justifiable, as there are more players needed to take down a 6.25b hp boss.

But the fact is, there needs to be a cap, no matter what.

Yes agree. Cap is a must. Otherwise we will have someone like me "running away and widening the gap more" and we don't want that now do we.

[mattp169]

Well Herby, you know everything don't you?

You know nothing Jon Snow.

Im not going to debate you on this. There is nothing to debate. Most people do not get it, because it is not effecting them, and their servers are no where close to where it will effect them. But oh well server 1 will eventually become a ghost town because all events will become pointless to do. You will have to coin thousands of dollars to get the coins/creds you need to finish upgrading. Progress will be so slow, even if you have a few hundred gems on thorsday you will only be able to afford to upgrade a few pieces because you have no real source of coin income any more. SO no need to coin for that.
The older server swill die off and the new servers will have it all.
Your right herby I should go start a new server and not worry about the game I started on Day 1. And then when the new server hits issues because of flawed game design, Ill start another one, and another and another.

Capping Banish is equivalent to capping how much you can coin per day so people don't get to far ahead of everyone else. - But oh wait people have suggested that as well - and that idea was met with such a warm reception.

Its true Server 1 may be unique in make up - it may not. I just know the cap is hurting server 1 players. Its not stopping players from getting bigger at this point. It has merely slowed a few of us down SLIGHTLY. But soon it will stop most of the server population from growing. With increased costs as you go up in levels, mounts to feed, runes to take to level 12, second and third sub gear to level you need a huge coin source to progress. Without it progress grinds to a near halt. Giving the top 10 out of 30-50 players better chips is not a solution. There was NEVER a need for a cap.

It all boils down to how many players tynon wants on a server. If they think 10-20 people per realm is a full server, then Server 1 is doomed. If they feel 100-200 per realm is a full server - MERGE MERGE MERGE. The cap happened because of servers with 10-20 people per realm OR LESS.

I would rather have another 50-100 people and have an uncapped 6.25b or even 31.25b banish. That would limit how many coins/credits I get. Instead of figuring out how to retain players and build up servers they implement this ridiculous cap.
Now we will start having top 10 finishers who at this point are only doing 2% of the damage in banish - quit doing banish because it is pointless for them to sit in the banish for 55 mins or so and get 500k coins. The P stone will fill up faster then that for them. Once more and more people on Server 1 get 2 subs, Banish will become useless for a MAJORITY of the server. They will get more rep and credits from Rag, and more coins from P stone then they will being in a 6.25b banish for 30-45 mins with 2-4 players having the second sub. I am not saying this will all happen tomorrow. But it is coming very soon. Sooner then anyone wants to admit.

And why in the world is the 6.25b banish even open. If the rewards are the same, this is punishment for servers like server 1. Just close the thing off.
And no one said that the next banish after 1.25b has to be 6.25b it can be 2.5b then 3.75b etc.

But yes herby you are right I only care about more coins for me me me me me.

[mattp169]

Yes agree. Cap is a must. Otherwise we will have someone like me "running away and widening the gap more" and we don't want that now do we.

WHY not? You coined to get the advantages you have. Tynon doesnt retain enough players on newer servers to make the banishes the same. Its not your fault. Take what you can get and Kudos to you. BUt why should Server 1 and soon other servers get punished because of flawed game design and poor planning. The solution to you getting less coins in banish is merges - not an artificial cap

[goerge_575659]

That works as well. A moderate increase in the cap for coins/credits would be justifiable, as there are more players needed to take down a 6.25b hp boss.

But the fact is, there needs to be a cap, no matter what.

Wow Herby I've never seen you back down so fast lol if ever

[Riot]

Merge server 103 with server 1 problem solved.



And change Banish to be Server based and not Realm based. Meaning 1 Banish across the entire server.

[mattp169]

merge server 103 with server 1 problem solved.

lets do it

[cnn1_7545681]

ive been saying server 1 needed a merge since the start of server 1, hope its moving along timely

[Deucalion]

Server 1 needs something done, and hopefully within a month or two. I'd like to see the cap removed, or at very least increased to 150 (not 125). Not sure if a merge is in order, but if it is, then the cap needs to be removed completely, not just increased. There are other ways to limit player growth. I don't understand why the most negative ways are always used. I coin either way, so it doesn't matter if I get 10m coins or 40m coins per banish, they still get the same amount of cash each week from me, and I think many players are that way. This is the beginning of the end of Banishes, right now. Mark my words. Less and less people care right now, and in a month even less will. For those of you who think people don't quit over these kind of things, watch and see. I now get 15m coins per banish, and that is a damn slap in my face as far as I'm concerned. If I don't refresh, I get about 5m. Nobody needs the banish rewards if they don't pay out. You can get your level 4 chip from the Lab much easier. Banish is now equal too Ragnarok. Grats.

[mattp169]

OK maybe this is a better solution

remove cap
and change it so beating the banish in 5 mins is required to open the next one.
and set it so you have to complete a banish is 45 minutes to keep it
and add in more banish levels. so we have
10m
50m
100m
200m
500m
750m
1.25b
2.5b
4b
6b
etc

Then reset all servers to 10m banish.

This will slow down coin growth - while allowing large population servers to keep growing

[DaBooMan]

Triads is level 6.

What server is Exec from?

Also, I wouldn't use Exec as an example of who the top players are. He may have been a former CWF champion, and is still one of the highest powers player currently, but his light has waned as of late.

I see players like this, such as Dragonian or Bubba. They're champions in their own time, but once they get beaten by newer players, they lose the will to improve and reclaim their thrones.

They seem to not be that interested in the game anymore, unlike very active top players such as LegionC or Tiny.

The game of Tynon is one that never stops, and always moves forward.
You have a choice: to be left in the dust, or stay ahead of the pack.

Herby you have just said it yourself.
Right there is black and white.
The newer players are more powerful than the old timers. The originals.
And why?
Because now u get more bang for your buck. More coins from banish.

Basically just ended all arguments to all new v old debates. Thanks bud.

I feel no need to argue any further point with you