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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020 View Post
    The logic is rather simple:

    1 of you
    20 of them

    You will only win 1 of 21 times.
    (even less if they revive)


    PS: You're already getting ~100% of the damage. And now you're whining (two threads already) about not getting this bonus?
    Why don't you share with your own guildies?
    Because they are going to alts, not actual players?

    How about you read posts before you reply, its for your own good.
    I like you Cuddles, and don't want everyone to think you are an idiot because I know you aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelsha View Post
    Because they are going to alts, not actual players?

    How about you read posts before you reply, its for your own good.
    I like you Cuddles, and don't want everyone to think you are an idiot because I know you aren't.
    First off, the final-blow system does not differentiate between mains and alts. the 1 in 21 logic ratio still answers his initial question about "rate".

    Now regarding the sharing:
    Riverbummer's "guildies" (disputatively alts but we'll suppose they are real for the sake of argument) are also struggling for that (near-100% damage) that Riverbummer is taking for him/herself. This pot contains 10k reputation, and much coins/credits depending on the size of the boss, and if this realm is not new, it will provide much more than the 10million coins in the final blow stage.

    There are reasons why I stop at 40% on my realm, for my guildies, even though I could easily do over 80%.

    Remember: when you assume, you make an "ass" out of "u" & "me"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelsha View Post
    Because they are going to alts, not actual players?

    How about you read posts before you reply, its for your own good.
    I like you Cuddles, and don't want everyone to think you are an idiot because I know you aren't.
    The way she constantly maneuvers all topics to herself as the locus of attention is just a major annoyance and based on how she bungs up these topics its hard for anyone with a rational mind not to think as you say here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020 View Post
    First off, the final-blow system does not differentiate between mains and alts. the 1 in 21 logic ratio still answers his initial question about "rate".

    Now regarding the sharing:
    Riverbummer's "guildies" (disputatively alts but we'll suppose they are real for the sake of argument) are also struggling for that (near-100% damage) that Riverbummer is taking for him/herself. This pot contains 10k reputation, and much coins/credits depending on the size of the boss, and if this realm is not new, it will provide much more than the 10million coins in the final blow stage.

    There are reasons why I stop at 40% on my realm, for my guildies, even though I could easily do over 80%.

    Remember: when you assume, you make an "ass" out of "u" & "me"
    I have had cuddles blocked here in forums since she has a need to always assume the worse in people and under a guise of "helping" others always takes it as an opportunity for self aggrandizement and self promotion. You see here another off topic attempt to inject her sanctimonious attitude again - that being of the general form: "see how noble I am since I help my guildies and he doesn't [nannr nannr nannr]".

    She of course is ASSuming that I don't help my guildies - but is of course bigoted and wrong in her presumptions and does not have a clue what I do or don't do for my guildies. At any rate she again has nothing to offer on the topic at hand except to advance herself while denigrating most any others who start new topic threads which she feels she must weigh in on -- even if she has no knowledge of it at all. So this is just Cuddles' normal attempt to run yet another thread down into a rabbit hole and hijack it to take it off topic. She can then direct her contempt at me when I ask her once again to just not comment if she has nothing constructive to say.

    She attempts to obfuscate and confuse a very simple topic. I never claimed that the logic differentiate between alts and mains - but that is a just thing she invented to give her a springboard to hijack the thread with irrelevant blather. The point I made, a very simple point that should not be hard for an average intellect to grasp is that LOW LEVEL toons (those that are typically alts that come in to an older server out of the blue) do seem to get a roll advantage on coin wins based on what I have seen and what I have heard from others in other servers and domains.

    Sharing is irrelevant completely to this dialog and she only brings it up to interject the absurd idea that in her irrational system of thinking somehow I deserve bad luck for not sharing more wins with people who she imagines I am being unfair to. A fabricated notion devoid of all truth.

    Cuddles - NO ONE here cares if you stop at 40% in your realm. I often don't hit at all cept for 1 time then in wrath mode to complete it so we are not there all day. Can you please understand that not every topic in this forum is about you and stop the self righteous pontificating and self promotion and get a life?
    Last edited by RiverBummer; 05-05-2014 at 04:22 AM.

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    Reiterating that there's only a few people in the event - 3-4. So if it were truly random I'd expect to win 30-25% of the time - not 1 in 10 as I am seeing since the PvP distraction hits started during wrath stage.

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    I don't know if they have fixed this since the last time I have seen it happen BUT you do not have to deal damage during the banish to win the 10mil. If you come in during final fight- 0% damage dealt- you can "win" the ten mil. Most major issue with that is that if you have dealt no damage and win- you don't actually get the 10mil which means NO ONE gets the coins for final blow. (Of course, if they have fixed this then nevermind.)

    I'm on page with Revan; it seems like it waits for a certain amount of hits to be done and damage dealt doesn't have anything to do with it.

    Also, I do not think that lower players who just happen to stroll in have a higher chance of winning. Yes, it happens but haven't seen anything to make me think the system is biased towards them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ts.long_3246860 View Post
    I don't know if they have fixed this since the last time I have seen it happen BUT you do not have to deal damage during the banish to win the 10mil. If you come in during final fight- 0% damage dealt- you can "win" the ten mil. Most major issue with that is that if you have dealt no damage and win- you don't actually get the 10mil which means NO ONE gets the coins for final blow. (Of course, if they have fixed this then nevermind.)

    I'm on page with Revan; it seems like it waits for a certain amount of hits to be done and damage dealt doesn't have anything to do with it.

    Also, I do not think that lower players who just happen to stroll in have a higher chance of winning. Yes, it happens but haven't seen anything to make me think the system is biased towards them.
    that was fixed a long time ago. you can't win the 10 mil unless you deal damage during the fight.

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    Isn't it also poor form for alts to be gem boosted and revived to get into the top 3? Oh, of course not, because you do that all the time. I don't know why you keep complaining about alts, you are host of a guild of your alts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyash1974_9750695 View Post
    Isn't it also poor form for alts to be gem boosted and revived to get into the top 3? Oh, of course not, because you do that all the time. I don't know why you keep complaining about alts, you are host of a guild of your alts.
    Who the heck are YOU??? I have a guild with over 40 players - most inactive or infrequent. I am really getting tired of you stalking me on forums and slandering me with your hateful sniping. I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't gem hit. I try to minimize gem use - not waste them. Run along - and go hate on someone else. I don't know you and you don't know me.

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    Can both of you (Cuddles and Bummer) just stop arguing and attacking one another? You're both really annoying. You make good points yet they get lost in your little fight.

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    I'm pretty sure last hit is random. I've even changed formation in the past to do more damage on last hit...makes no noticeable difference. I got last hit on cerb and was #1 in banish plenty of times, so low power don't matter from what i've seen. One of my guildies got last hit like 3 times in 2 days. I even got last hit once after I left...hit him once then went to work on gear.

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