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Thread: Powering down for the new HP, how is it done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomas_8618530 View Post
    Well you thought wrong.. :-)
    We are doing it on our server... :-)

    And it have actually become easier, because now HP setup is only ****ed up when you fight someone from same realm, so you can still farm/share with everyone else..
    Even though UA consist of top 10 from each realm, it aint nessesary the 2 highest ranked UA players from forrest that will be made forrest statues on.. Your have to inspect the players to see the realm arena rank in top right corner.. That is the "old" arena ranking, those that are used for HP setup..

    It is quite possible for the strongest player on server to have UA rank 1 and realm rank 1, then to power down, drop rank in UA.. then have a guildmate with realm rank 8 to beat him down at UA rank 45, then power up again climb up and claim UA rank 1.. that player that beat him now hold realm rank 1 but are still maybe 45 in UA.. And the strongest player now holds realm rank 8.. (unless he fought someone else from same realm climbing)

    And as i said, if top 1-2 from each realm meet and fight each other in UA, while main only and naked.. then that realm will have 2x naked main only statues when HP is made..
    you lucky your server is that active. its still near impossible for us and not worth the hassle especially considering the rewards with getting a shayd card as the top reward
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    HP is beyond my understanding. Totally unbalanced for one. Half of the "champions" are people I can smash into oblivion anytime anywhere, but they are top in their realm...so in the hall. The other half are people that are strong enough to smash everyone on the server and even strong enough to get to finals of CW from time to time. Can't beat their weakest mirrors, even with maximum boost. So, it's either a ridiculous cake walk or an impossible task. Boring.

    and the rewards....like was said above....insulting small. A Calvin card? really?

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    I posted a couple of pics from ultimate arena to show how to see the old realm arena rank. This seems to be really confusing some people and is a major source of confusion.

    I removed names of player, their ranks & power, etc for privacy reasons. I hope this helps some people out. The first pic is the character profile that is easily accessed from the ultimate arena top 30 menu or from the arena stakes menu. The 2nd image is the top 10 listing for ultimate arena top 30.
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    The top two (old server is all I know) from each realm based on the realm rank go to HP. Setting up is done like before, but it must be done by people within the realm. So if the 1st and 2nd on a realm can not see each other they will need help from the other realms to move up or down so that they can.

    It is nor clear to me if being attacked by some one from another realm after set up messes up the set up. We have not experience with that, except an accidental attack 20 minutes before server reset that did not change the set up, but that could be because the formations were already frozen.

    As far as how the Realm rank for the players that are in UA is determined, I have no idea. The logical thing would be based on the rank in UA but that is not always true. I have seen the player that was the 2nd highest on my realm based on the UA have a Realm rank of 4, with 2 and 3 being lower in UA that he was. It may have something to do with who he did battle with to move up or down within UA and if he skipped over some people of his own real in doing it, but that is just a guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    As far as how the Realm rank for the players that are in UA is determined, I have no idea.
    I tested it. Realm rank is based on whatever spot you take from a player in your realm. If you defeat the player in your realm who is #1 in realm rank, you move up to #1 in realm rank just like before.

    The confusion starts when the player who is #1 in your realm could be any rank in ultimate arena. So the player who is #1 in realm rank could be #30 in ultimate arena because players in other realms can bump that player around in ultimate arena without changing your realm rank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perawind_8762856 View Post
    I tested it. Realm rank is based on whatever spot you take from a player in your realm. If you defeat the player in your realm who is #1 in realm rank, you move up to #1 in realm rank just like before.

    The confusion starts when the player who is #1 in your realm could be any rank in ultimate arena. So the player who is #1 in realm rank could be #30 in ultimate arena because players in other realms can bump that player around in ultimate arena without changing your realm rank.
    That is what I suspected was happening. Thanks for the info.
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    if that was really all that would happen and be going on, then there would be situations where the realm top 5 never would change again. for example if the top 1 player for example quit, got moved down in UA to lets say rank 30. a new player would beat #10 in his realm and jump into the UA at rank 10. there is no way he can beat that player to get in his #1 rank in his realm arena (unless he gets beaten by other realms down to rank 31 and then can attack the #1 player from his own) and his realm top 5 would never change again. but it does. i am not saying you are wrong, i am only pointing out that there is more to it than the "if/or" scenario that you told us about. in your case all the top 3-4 players from all realms would be in HP and no further questions. but they are not. we have seen in the recent past that even players as low as rank 8 in the realm arena (#3 in UA) can be in the HP.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    if that was really all that would happen and be going on, then there would be situations where the realm top 5 never would change again. for example if the top 1 player for example quit, got moved down in UA to lets say rank 30. a new player would beat #10 in his realm and jump into the UA at rank 10. there is no way he can beat that player to get in his #1 rank in his realm arena (unless he gets beaten by other realms down to rank 31 and then can attack the #1 player from his own) and his realm top 5 would never change again. but it does. i am not saying you are wrong, i am only pointing out that there is more to it than the "if/or" scenario that you told us about. in your case all the top 3-4 players from all realms would be in HP and no further questions. but they are not. we have seen in the recent past that even players as low as rank 8 in the realm arena (#3 in UA) can be in the HP.
    I have as yet to see this on our server. But, as has been said, I have seen people in the UA in the top 5 and much lower in the Realm arena. If no one from your realm successfully attacks you when you are in the UA, then your rank in the realm arena doesn't change. But, other realms can successfully attack you and change your UA rank.

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    Only the Realm ranks matter in HP. If there has been an issue, it's usually down to someone in the same realm attacking and changing their realm rank.

    Happened a few times over the last few weeks on our server.

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    Another question that I do not thing has been answered is

    After the power down formation is set up, does an attack by, or attacking, some one from another Realm resets the formation the same way that an attack from some one from the same Realm does?
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