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    A point system

    Ok so as we all know power is meaningless

    BUt many have suggested brackets for cwf
    and many other ideas have come and gone that would require a true measure of an acct - such as who should be eligible for 1st replays

    The problem is there is no REAL measuring system in this game that can not be manipulated

    I may have just thought of one, that if implemented could lead to bracketing in cwf and many more things down the road

    My idea is simple a point system for game progress.

    Here is a basic outline and examples

    Beat a quest boss -2500 points
    1st time you beat an HR boss - 5k points
    beat a RA hero - 2k points
    recruit a hero 0 1k points
    participate in banish 10 points
    start sialing 10 points
    finish a sail 10 points
    place in top 10 of banish 10 points
    participate in rag 10 points
    make final leaderboard in rag 10 points
    invest in guild 5 points
    claim benefits 5 points
    open a chip slot 100 points
    open a talent or blacksmith cue 5k points
    beat a HP statue 1 point
    win in ko round or later of CWF 100 points
    every chest you open in assistant 5 points
    craft a plan 10 points
    start a lab 5 points
    finish a lab 5 points
    10 additional points per 100 score over 500 in lab
    level up 100 points
    every gold or purple card you get - regardless of fail succeed or use - 100 points
    every hero card regardless - 500 points
    every successful star attempt 50 points
    every successful sainting 50 points
    Buying amount 500 points
    every star on a mount 500 points

    Things like rune level,equipment level what chips you have etc do not count towards these points - only things that show progress in the game and that can not be manipulated unless you dont do them.

    Then CWF brackets could easily be determined by these scores.
    Once your score hits a certain point you can not get new replays in a 1st down for boss x or ra hero x

    This can be used to determine other things as well. Possible for removing the PvP limit and you can only attack someone with in x points of you

    I hope i thought his thorough enough. And at this point in the game it may be useless for many. But this could be useful

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    Lots of those things don't reflect pvp strength.

    A rating system might. In CWF, you gain points if you win, you lose points if you lose. You gain more points if you beat someone with a high rating, and lose more points if you lose to someone with a low rating. Eventually everyone will be put in close to proper order and it's a lot simpler.

    Also curious... why regardless of success or failure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    Lots of those things don't reflect pvp strength.

    A rating system might. In CWF, you gain points if you win, you lose points if you lose. You gain more points if you beat someone with a high rating, and lose more points if you lose to someone with a low rating. Eventually everyone will be put in close to proper order and it's a lot simpler.

    Also curious... why regardless of success or failure?
    This is not just about PVP
    This measures PROGRESS IN GAME
    you progress through strategy,money,time,knowledge.

    I say regardless of success or fail because failures actually usually bring you closer to a success - which is progress -
    BUt everything was a suggestion to show the idea and scaling of points and not necessarily what exactly should be used.

    I believe progress in game shows alot more accurately where you are compared to other players - and hard to manipulate. I can throw fights to not be put in a higher bracket in CWF so i can say be in finals every time of one bracket and throw the fight so i dont get enough points to go to next bracket and finish 128th

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    This is not just about PVP
    This measures PROGRESS IN GAME
    you progress through strategy,money,time,knowledge.

    I say regardless of success or fail because failures actually usually bring you closer to a success - which is progress -
    BUt everything was a suggestion to show the idea and scaling of points and not necessarily what exactly should be used.

    I believe progress in game shows alot more accurately where you are compared to other players - and hard to manipulate. I can throw fights to not be put in a higher bracket in CWF so i can say be in finals every time of one bracket and throw the fight so i dont get enough points to go to next bracket and finish 128th
    Ok, this makes sense (but I would certainly avoid certain events if going by your numbers). Any points added to buying progress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    Ok, this makes sense (but I would certainly avoid certain events if going by your numbers). Any points added to buying progress?
    yeha forgot that
    each vip level should add points as well
    say 5k

    and like i said everything i put is just a basic idea. we may not need all those things
    but it shows the type of things that should give points a basic scale and things that should not get points like runes and gear level

    then ever time cwf come sup
    if theres 4 brackets you take the lowest active acct for the past 2 weeks and the highest
    and use those as the starting and ending points for the point system
    and figure out where the brackets should be for that cwf - because as game progresses the points for particular bracket smay nee dto change
    and we may need to remove or add brackets
    Last edited by mattp169; 05-28-2014 at 09:27 PM.

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    Through out the entire game there is only one thing consistent no matter what changes are brought about and that is your main. If a computer can calculate your main without runes and equipment and leave only the saints it would give an easier lvl system for brackets

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    Quote Originally Posted by becalvert_1151817 View Post
    Through out the entire game there is only one thing consistent no matter what changes are brought about and that is your main. If a computer can calculate your main without runes and equipment and leave only the saints it would give an easier lvl system for brackets
    Transfer from your main and you'll be in the bottom bracket? Matt's looking at something that's difficult to manipulate too much.

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    I think the power bracket is the most reliable system that could be used. Yes, some people with lower power can beat some people with higher power, but that's because those with higher power don't know what they're doing.

    Power (the one in the rankings) can be manipulated, yes, but it cannot be manipulated downwards. If you raise your power too much, too bad so sad. Just don't do it.

    The only problem I foresee with having brackets is that Tynon will run out of participants. CWF will either have to be shorter, or the rounds last longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenWing View Post
    I think the power bracket is the most reliable system that could be used. Yes, some people with lower power can beat some people with higher power, but that's because those with higher power don't know what they're doing.

    Power (the one in the rankings) can be manipulated, yes, but it cannot be manipulated downwards. If you raise your power too much, too bad so sad. Just don't do it.

    The only problem I foresee with having brackets is that Tynon will run out of participants. CWF will either have to be shorter, or the rounds last longer.
    Being 'weak for your power' isn't a sign of not knowing what your doing so long as you get there fairly quickly. Being weak for time/money spent is a sign of not knowing what your doing.

    Power can be manipulated downwards... (can't be undone on rankings list, but...). Just leave out a hero (or two or however many) whenever you play... you can still build up his equipment and use him for CW, but nothing else.

    And lastly... power isn't reliable at all...

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    I don't know about you but I can't do a transfer from my main...............

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