How to fix the unfairness issue while still maintaining World Boss realm cap

[Tielerd_693389]

welll 250m power boss is a vigor twice as damage when you look

[lostinhouse_815896]

Look.. this is a problem exacerbated by Tynon whey they created CW and encouraged players to become monstrous enough to even qualify for the semi-finals. Before then, there was no reason to become so ungodly powerful in your own server unless you were directly competing with another player on your own server, in which case it would balance the playing field. Having these Gigantic and powerful players on a server not only ruins Heaven's palace, but it also ruins Ragnarok, and it ruins the average players chances for earning their own resources in Baal and Cerb. I am not the only player in the only realm... in the only server that faces this same problem.. It is blatantly unfair for you to ask me to move to another guild and another realm ... AWAY from a guild that I helped build and create not to mention away from the friends i have made in a game that is supposed to be a SOCIAL game..... just so Tynon doesn't have to do ANYTHING about the mess they created. All you are doing is catering to the handful of players who spend thousands.. and that will be the downfall of this game.. unless you wake up and realize that it is the thousands of people who spend hundreds that are your bread and butter. And when you do nothing to help them.. they will no longer play this game if they are not cared for properly, and are deemed INSIGNIFICANT by YOU.

[mattp169]

well the whole banish system is the issue.

Noone should be punished for doing TOO well, or because some else is doing TOO well

SO i ve suggested in the past to do the following

change banish to be like rag
in its own window so you can close it and let it run
regardless of how long it take sa round to visually play out, you get 1 round per minute - so everyone gets the same # of rounds
the boss's hp is infinite for everyone

Then everyone can get the max rewards possible for how good they have built their accts regardless of other players in realm.

[Morgan le Fay]

Look.. this is a problem exacerbated by Tynon whey they created CW and encouraged players to become monstrous enough to even qualify for the semi-finals. Before then, there was no reason to become so ungodly powerful in your own server unless you were directly competing with another player on your own server, in which case it would balance the playing field. Having these Gigantic and powerful players on a server not only ruins Heaven's palace, but it also ruins Ragnarok, and it ruins the average players chances for earning their own resources in Baal and Cerb. I am not the only player in the only realm... in the only server that faces this same problem.. It is blatantly unfair for you to ask me to move to another guild and another realm ... AWAY from a guild that I helped build and create not to mention away from the friends i have made in a game that is supposed to be a SOCIAL game..... just so Tynon doesn't have to do ANYTHING about the mess they created. All you are doing is catering to the handful of players who spend thousands.. and that will be the downfall of this game.. unless you wake up and realize that it is the thousands of people who spend hundreds that are your bread and butter. And when you do nothing to help them.. they will no longer play this game if they are not cared for properly, and are deemed INSIGNIFICANT by YOU.

I think you're misinterpreting what us mods are. We moderate the forum, that's 'all, we don't work for uCool or Tynon. We're just volunteers who do this for free. I was just giving you my two cents.

I don't think anyone is insignificant, but CWF was created as a money spinner and a way to 'reward' the biggest players who like in any competition strive to be the best. Like everyone else who has these big players in the realm, just get on with it and work on congratulating their efforts instead of feeling so 'put out'. If you don't want to move that's your choice but I'm afraid like everyone else in this situation you are just going to have to accept it, what's done is done. The world is full of those who can afford to spend and those who can't. Like you I fall in the latter category, so yes I do understand but if people want to spend obscene amounts on a game to become as you say 'ungodly powerful' then it's no one's business but theirs.

Trying to come up solutions to 'fix it' won't fix that kind of imbalance. It's the way this game has evolved and the way by the looks of it it's going to stay.

[Tomas_8618530]

1. I would actually consider stop playing the game if there would be events that i could not attend to, because i "play to much".. And that is regardless of my power or my banish income..
2. This is a pvp game, first and foremost.. Competing with other players on so many diffrent events.. So it would always causes the most active/big spenders to strive to be at the top.
3. There are servel other ways to compensate, being on a server with a HUGE player or not being able to attend banish..
- Change realm to where you get more out of banish or change to another server if you cant attend at all, since banish is a key element in a players progress in this game...
- Focus your heroes progress to be better at banish only, it is not hard to become very strong in banish.. Only need to focus on a few things on each hero really..
- Removed

[TrollsWarrior_4733092]

If I could take my current heroes and my guild techs with me and migrate to another server, that would solve this problem for me. I could take my friends who started at the same time and are non or low coiners and all join a server better suited for us. The half dozen super powers in our server could take all their power and go elsewhere too so they could be challenged again. The Ultimate arena is doing that for them a bit but not really doing enough.

[Wildflower]

I would prefer to see either banish be done by the entire server every time ( with elevated cap ofcourse) or to have a realm event implemented that would counter the advantage some realms have that have lower attendance.
I truly feel that active guilds get duped in the banish events as they are atm for keeping their guilds active and fun.
Now if the bigger banish would be with elevated cap this problem would be solved.

[Riot]

I would prefer to see either banish be done by the entire server every time ( with elevated cap of course)

This is what I have been saying for a while now. Increase the cap and open it up to the entire server vs. each realm. Things may be better balanced if this happens on many of the servers. Some high levels are moving to an empty realm just to get more coins which seems excessive considering you have to leave your guild and eventually use gems to come back.

[lostinhouse_815896]

1. I would actually consider stop playing the game if there would be events that i could not attend to, because i "play to much".. And that is regardless of my power or my banish income..
2. This is a pvp game, first and foremost.. Competing with other players on so many diffrent events.. So it would always causes the most active/big spenders to strive to be at the top.
3. There are servel other ways to compensate, being on a server with a HUGE player or not being able to attend banish..
- Change realm to where you get more out of banish or change to another server if you cant attend at all, since banish is a key element in a players progress in this game...
- Focus your heroes progress to be better at banish only, it is not hard to become very strong in banish.. Only need to focus on a few things on each hero really..
- Removed

1. There is a Cap on revenges.. only 10 a day because some players are capable of revenging non stop 24 /7 and also farming alts continuously.
2. There is a Cap on how many times you can sail because some players are capable of stealing all the maps and sailing all day and reaping unlimited rewards.
3. There is a Cap on how many resources you can earn in Cerb and Baal per Realm as an effort to keep servers balanced.

Having an extra time slot for Cerb/Baal but allowing players the ability to choose which 2 time slots work best for them.. is NOT keeping anyone from an entitled event. It is already capped at 2 times a day.. and is no different than limiting your revenges to only 10 when there are so many more possible revenges out there.. When there are so many ships sailing... but you are out of turns..

The reason why it is absolutely necessary to limit Baal and Cerb to only 2 attempts per day out of 3 available options is that inevitably the monster players who are so incredibly driven to be the best in this game and in CW would take over all three events.

I am not asking for more crap from Tynon.. I am asking for better options..

Asking hundreds of players to switch a realm just to avoid one monster player is simply unfair... it disrupts the balance of a server.. destroys guilds.. and ruins peoples games.. and I cannot believe that this is the solution that Tynon would have in mind for its players or its future. Asking a player to find a different time zone to play in is absolutely not an option for many as it requires abandoning a game that we have already invested so much money and time into.

[kaisim_2492829]

here is the thing, i still dont think its a good idea to modify an entire game so a handfull of players can "catch up". i dont think anything is wrong with it with how the banish is working, timed, etc. its part of the game. its a game! what do you expect the GM's to do other than do handstands for you? have you ever considered that the entire game is already waiting on you to catch up by holding new game content back, restricting levels, HR, no new gear, caps on banishes, etc...?
i dont like when they keep on making the game easier for everyone to catch up. try picture yourself in the role of someone on an older server who is still waiting for new game content and new challenges. my server is not old and not the youngest either, but with 240m power i think i caught up well with the top players without being in the top percentile. i am not a big spender either, i have spent some money and for sure more than i have planned to spend but thats because i enjoy the game
if there is anything wrong about banish then its a cap on coins, chips dont improve, you get old plans you dont need (not for sirius) and the fact that right now we are better off avoiding the 6.25B banish than working it.

PS:

I think you're misinterpreting what us mods are. We moderate the forum, that's 'all, we don't work for uCool or Tynon. We're just volunteers who do this for free. I was just giving you my two cents.

no need to hiss at him, he never called you out morgan. he in fact said "tynon" (for game makers) not "morgan", "the mods" or anything that would make it personal to you. when he refers to "you" he meant the entire forum and not "morgan"