Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst ... 2345 LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 47

Thread: How to fix the unfairness issue while still maintaining World Boss realm cap

  1. #31
    Forum Moderator Morgan le Fay's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Clarity
    Posts
    2,023
    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    no need to hiss at him, he never called you out morgan. he in fact said "tynon" (for game makers) not "morgan", "the mods" or anything that would make it personal to you. when he refers to "you" he meant the entire forum and not "morgan
    I wasn't 'hissing' at her, I was explaining in case there was a misunderstanding. Don't make a storm in a teacup.

    Forum Moderators are volunteers and are unable to fix in game problems

  2. #32
    Champion lostinhouse_815896's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    ABRAXAS
    Posts
    58
    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    here is the thing, i still dont think its a good idea to modify an entire game so a handfull of players can "catch up". i dont think anything is wrong with it with how the banish is working, timed, etc. its part of the game. its a game! what do you expect the GM's to do other than do handstands for you? have you ever considered that the entire game is already waiting on you to catch up by holding new game content back, restricting levels, HR, no new gear, caps on banishes, etc...?
    i dont like when they keep on making the game easier for everyone to catch up. try picture yourself in the role of someone on an older server who is still waiting for new game content and new challenges. my server is not old and not the youngest either, but with 240m power i think i caught up well with the top players without being in the top percentile. i am not a big spender either, i have spent some money and for sure more than i have planned to spend but thats because i enjoy the game
    if there is anything wrong about banish then its a cap on coins, chips dont improve, you get old plans you dont need (not for sirius) and the fact that right now we are better off avoiding the 6.25B banish than working it.

    PS:

    no need to hiss at him, he never called you out morgan. he in fact said "tynon" (for game makers) not "morgan", "the mods" or anything that would make it personal to you. when he refers to "you" he meant the entire forum and not "morgan"
    You are being a hypocrite.. it isn't okay for me to ask for changes that benefit a great deal of players.. but it is okay for you to agree to changes that will solely benefit YOU? Removing the cap on banishes only help the Larger players more than anything else. I am trying to find solutions for the average player.. and for players who actually have jobs and work during the day and would like the ability / option to participate in a banish event.

    And by the way.. I am not only fighting for myself here.. I am fighting for Execdude who at the moment feels so guilty that he has stopped participating in Baal / Cerb altogether. Our Guild has suffered.. We have lost players to other realms.. and because our players haven't grown as much as those on other realms, our guild has grown weaker and we have lost cities. There is no reason why Exec should make this sacrifice. There is no reason why our guild should have to fall into this state.. not when there is something Tynon can do about it. Like it said.. we aren't the only ones who face this situation. And if this situation doesn't apply to you then please keep your 2 sense to yourself. You obviously don't care or understand about situations that have no affect on you... or changes that wont' benefit you in some way. There has to be a better solution.

  3. #33
    Sirius kaisim_2492829's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Expunged
    Posts
    2,206
    Quote Originally Posted by lostinhouse_815896 View Post
    You are being a hypocrite.. it isn't okay for me to ask for changes that benefit a great deal of players.. but it is okay for you to agree to changes that will solely benefit YOU? Removing the cap on banishes only help the Larger players more than anything else. I am trying to find solutions for the average player.. and for players who actually have jobs and work during the day and would like the ability / option to participate in a banish event.

    And by the way.. I am not only fighting for myself here.. I am fighting for Execdude who at the moment feels so guilty that he has stopped participating in Baal / Cerb altogether. Our Guild has suffered.. We have lost players to other realms.. and because our players haven't grown as much as those on other realms, our guild has grown weaker and we have lost cities. There is no reason why Exec should make this sacrifice. There is no reason why our guild should have to fall into this state.. not when there is something Tynon can do about it. Like it said.. we aren't the only ones who face this situation. And if this situation doesn't apply to you then please keep your 2 sense to yourself. You obviously don't care or understand about situations that have no affect on you... or changes that wont' benefit you in some way. There has to be a better solution.
    now i know that you don't know what you are talking about because if you remove the cap from banishes that shouldnt have been there in the first place and you will know that when your server finally gets to beat the 1.25B boss and later powers down to not get the 6.25B boss). my server number is 92, that is definately not in the top 10. we are a rather inactive server and everyone agrees that we should have been merged but didnt even tho we have 2 dead realms.
    by removing the banish cap EVERYONE participating in those banishes (the ones you dont have) would profit because you would get x5 the coin amount for the same performance. so not only your bottom 5 on your server would profit by this but every player on every server would. i also suggested other stuff like the top 3 in banishes should be excluded from the 10m bonus or to instead of "fixing" something like banishes for crybabies to release new game content, maps and everything that goes with it.
    how am i being the hypocrite when i am not even the strongest player on our server, not even in the top 100 overall while you are requesting other players to step down even more so you can catch up because you dont seem to have the same talent in this game as others have? how dare you to make strong players like exec feeling guilty for playing the game and spending money to be in the top 10!
    the general rule should be to make the game harder as it gets older, not easier.

    i will give you a prediction though: if the game gets any easier as already is and if more players getting punished for being good at it or for spending money, then those players will leave and find new games where they can put some money in.
    you complain about players leaving but i promise you that players like you and your crying with the urge to make it even easier for vip0's are some of the main reasons for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

  4. #34
    Here's a simple fix to the banish problems with high and low power players; Simply limit boost to +60% for 100mil power, and only +40% for 500mil power players. Adjust as needed for different servers.

  5. #35
    Guardian
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Subversion
    Posts
    179
    Quote Originally Posted by Valentina_9996847 View Post
    Here's a simple fix to the banish problems with high and low power players; Simply limit boost to +60% for 100mil power, and only +40% for 500mil power players. Adjust as needed for different servers.
    I'm trying to figure out why people insist on coming up with ways to limit the players that have spent money AND time to get ot the higher levels. The inequities on some servers due to inactivity is simply something that can only be fixed by merging of servers. And, that won't fix what's being addressed here - there will still be high levels that take the majority of the rewards in WBs, as well as other places. The solution is to spend the time and/or money to get to where they are, or close.

    I'm not one of those high levels talked about here. I've got less than half the power of our #1 player and he farms me regularly in the UA. But, instead of trying to figure out how to restrict his power, I simply find a guild mate of his to farm in return.

    It's bad enough that Tynon put caps on the 1.25G and 6.25G WBs. More restrictions fix nothing. And, a third WB won't fix the problem either. Tynon is trying to slow down advancement and another WB would accelerate that - putting out more coin/credit for people to use to U/G their equipment/talents/runes, etc.

    I don't know the solution to the problem talked about here, but restricting the higher levels, or adding another WB won't fix it.

  6. #36
    Champion lostinhouse_815896's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    ABRAXAS
    Posts
    58
    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    now i know that you don't know what you are talking about because if you remove the cap from banishes that shouldnt have been there in the first place and you will know that when your server finally gets to beat the 1.25B boss and later powers down to not get the 6.25B boss). my server number is 92, that is definately not in the top 10. we are a rather inactive server and everyone agrees that we should have been merged but didnt even tho we have 2 dead realms.
    by removing the banish cap EVERYONE participating in those banishes (the ones you dont have) would profit because you would get x5 the coin amount for the same performance. so not only your bottom 5 on your server would profit by this but every player on every server would. i also suggested other stuff like the top 3 in banishes should be excluded from the 10m bonus or to instead of "fixing" something like banishes for crybabies to release new game content, maps and everything that goes with it.
    how am i being the hypocrite when i am not even the strongest player on our server, not even in the top 100 overall while you are requesting other players to step down even more so you can catch up because you dont seem to have the same talent in this game as others have? how dare you to make strong players like exec feeling guilty for playing the game and spending money to be in the top 10!
    the general rule should be to make the game harder as it gets older, not easier.

    i will give you a prediction though: if the game gets any easier as already is and if more players getting punished for being good at it or for spending money, then those players will leave and find new games where they can put some money in.
    you complain about players leaving but i promise you that players like you and your crying with the urge to make it even easier for vip0's are some of the main reasons for it.
    Actually, i know exactly what I am talking about. There is a good reason why there is a cap on Cerb / Baal. I'm sorry the cap doesn't work for you, or if you fail to see the benefit of it. Second of all, I am not a crybaby, and at VIP 7 and at 130 million power, I have my share of experience and have spent my fair share of money on this game. There is absolutely NO HARM in having a third Cerb / Baal event. I am not here to argue about the removal of the Cap that Tynon sees fit to put into place. I am offering up a solution that will help players in spite of the cap. Im sorry if you don't stand to benefit from this idea. But that is just the way it is. More people will benefit than those that will not and that is what Tynon needs to focus on.

  7. #37
    Sirius kaisim_2492829's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Expunged
    Posts
    2,206
    Quote Originally Posted by lostinhouse_815896 View Post
    Actually, i know exactly what I am talking about. There is a good reason why there is a cap on Cerb / Baal. I'm sorry the cap doesn't work for you, or if you fail to see the benefit of it. Second of all, I am not a crybaby, and at VIP 7 and at 130 million power, I have my share of experience and have spent my fair share of money on this game. There is absolutely NO HARM in having a third Cerb / Baal event. I am not here to argue about the removal of the Cap that Tynon sees fit to put into place. I am offering up a solution that will help players in spite of the cap. Im sorry if you don't stand to benefit from this idea. But that is just the way it is. More people will benefit than those that will not and that is what Tynon needs to focus on.
    but its not a solution, its just a horrible idea and a logistical nightmare. besides, you are better off to participate in one big banish than in 2 small ones. also don't forget that they all have to show up and you are reducing the banish players by 1/3rd meaning you have to adjust the rage phase, the defense and HP from the boss if you dont want to have him go 1-2 stages back. you also need enough players to maintain those banishes. so lets say you have currently 12-20 players (depending on daylight) doing your current banish. after adding a 3rd that you restrict to only two where you can participate, those players will be cut down into groups of 8-16 and you might not even be able to complete within 1 hour.
    also its even possible they entirely not show up at all and you get to solo your banish meaning if the "superduper" player is smart he will announce on what banish he will go and pull off 100% every time because the others will stay away and get 110m on one banish and another significant amount on another banish. now how fair would that be?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    but its not a solution, its just a horrible idea and a logistical nightmare. besides, you are better off to participate in one big banish than in 2 small ones. also don't forget that they all have to show up and you are reducing the banish players by 1/3rd meaning you have to adjust the rage phase, the defense and HP from the boss if you dont want to have him go 1-2 stages back. you also need enough players to maintain those banishes. so lets say you have currently 12-20 players (depending on daylight) doing your current banish. after adding a 3rd that you restrict to only two where you can participate, those players will be cut down into groups of 8-16 and you might not even be able to complete within 1 hour.
    also its even possible they entirely not show up at all and you get to solo your banish meaning if the "superduper" player is smart he will announce on what banish he will go and pull off 100% every time because the others will stay away and get 110m on one banish and another significant amount on another banish. now how fair would that be?
    Kaism your not taking into acct that players liek exec, myself and many many others can easily solo 1.25b banishes. YOur point seems to make sense, but it would probably balance out on most servers.

    This is as good of a solution as others.

    SAVE REMOVING THE CAP...which is the best solution.

  9. #39
    Champion lostinhouse_815896's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    ABRAXAS
    Posts
    58
    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    but its not a solution, its just a horrible idea and a logistical nightmare. besides, you are better off to participate in one big banish than in 2 small ones. also don't forget that they all have to show up and you are reducing the banish players by 1/3rd meaning you have to adjust the rage phase, the defense and HP from the boss if you dont want to have him go 1-2 stages back. you also need enough players to maintain those banishes. so lets say you have currently 12-20 players (depending on daylight) doing your current banish. after adding a 3rd that you restrict to only two where you can participate, those players will be cut down into groups of 8-16 and you might not even be able to complete within 1 hour.
    also its even possible they entirely not show up at all and you get to solo your banish meaning if the "superduper" player is smart he will announce on what banish he will go and pull off 100% every time because the others will stay away and get 110m on one banish and another significant amount on another banish. now how fair would that be?
    It is not a horrible idea when it enables players to play the game.. At least half of the players on my server would be able to participate in TWO banish events instead of just one if there was a later time available in the day as most people i know work during at least one of the Banish events. This isn't going to create a problem or a Logistical nightmare as you call it.. in fact it will elevate participation.. And if a single player wants to handle the 1.25 Baal all by themselves.. then all is fair.. there is a cap and its not like they can run off with all of Tynon's coins. Everyone else can share the spoils of the other two events. Should make everyone happy.

  10. #40
    Guardian japerdog50_9329163's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    B2A
    Posts
    113
    You see 3 banishes might be good for your server but our server has low activity and banish ranges from 2-9 people on average 5. So 3 would scatter us out more and would then be worse off. So you have to take into account that every server is different and just cause this will help out a few people it wont help everyone.
    Crimson-Server 41 Darkness of Tartarus

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •