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    @Yelsha When I used Calvin I ran out of rounds every round. I opted not to use him for now, though he might get back in instead of a stunner at some point.
    My output was similar as without him. I used Cianna, Aphro, Shayd, Calvin, Lance, Prophet and main.

    Today I had two other top fighters in Banish and where before one of them could come close to beating me, there was more distance today.
    In that regard Lance seems to help a lot.
    Also consistency has gone up greatly.
    Still feel as if the damage difference is not enough, but will keep tracking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelsha View Post
    Wildflower, do you get better output using Calvin or without Calvin? What heroes do you use in addition to Calvin when you have him in?
    i dont think anyone in the higher levels (past 4x light spirits) utilizes calvin during banishes... or am i totally off on this one
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    Wildflower: What's the highest damage banish round you have ever gotten?

    To get your theoretical max damage, add up all the damage you do in one fight round and multiply that by 30.

    If you're getting a lot less damage than the theoretical max, you're not stunning the boss enough (you die before round 30).

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    Even though, you will not always stun the full fight. There will be times when your stuns do not land at all past 2nd or 3rd round.

    However, having more stunners does bring consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot View Post
    Even though, you will not always stun the full fight. There will be times when your stuns do not land at all past 2nd or 3rd round.

    However, having more stunners does bring consistency.
    @riot Yes, we taught you well .

    I have been doing great damage, that is not really what I am asking or pointing at.

    My expectation was that by getting Lance from 4 moons to full moon, my damage would go up more than it did.
    It seems odd that people who have no moons on there banish heroes can do same-ish damage as I do when circumstances are the same.
    On server 8 we all use pretty much the same formation ( though we do mix it up here and there).

    There has to be a hidden factor taken in account for these results to be possible.
    It might be luck of course.

    If higher powered heroes are no longer showing effect at some point, then damage must rely on something else in my view.
    However it has only been 2 days, so it is hardly conclusive that the full mooned power hero is not conductive.

    Stats:

    Lance
    skill 111
    crit 231

    Cianna
    Skill 87
    crit 215

    Aphro
    Mag att 91
    Last edited by Wildflower; 06-23-2014 at 04:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildflower View Post
    @riot Yes, we taught you well .

    I have been doing great damage, that is not really what I am asking or pointing at.

    My expectation was that by getting Lance from 4 moons to full moon, my damage would go up more than it did.
    It seems odd that people who have no moons on there banish heroes can do same-ish damage as I do when circumstances are the same.
    On server 8 we all use pretty much the same formation ( though we do mix it up here and there).

    There has to be a hidden factor taken in account for these results to be possible.
    It might be luck of course.

    If higher powered heroes are no longer showing effect at some point, then damage must rely on something else in my view.
    However it has only been 2 days, so it is hardly conclusive that the full mooned power hero is not conductive.
    I don't think so.

    Every star and saint I add to Lance has increased my damage.

    Also I knew about the 3 or 4 stun config for a long time before I decided to use it. I was just too lazy to pull out thuc and cienna from the hero tavryn and swap runes, etc.

    Once 8th sub slot opens, I am probably going to reintroduce Blood or Pompey in addition to the 4 stunners. If the rounds are capped at 35, I am capping pretty often right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot View Post
    I don't think so.

    Every star and saint I add to Lance has increased my damage.

    Also I knew about the 3 or 4 stun config for a long time before I decided to use it. I was just too lazy to pull out thuc and cienna from the hero tavryn and swap runes, etc.

    Once 8th sub slot opens, I am probably going to reintroduce Blood or Pompey in addition to the 4 stunners. If the rounds are capped at 35, I am capping pretty often right now.
    @Riot I remember your knowledge on the subject well, no worries:
    http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...ish+formations

    I am glad it has increased your damage.
    Mine has not increased much the past 2 days - which can still be luck dependent - and I am looking as to why that is.
    We can not compare our stories due to the difference in servers, participation in the events as well as power level difference.

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    I have to emphasize this a little more i think:
    if you have a hero doing 1.5m damage on every turn but can not use him because you have a hero who stuns and does 200k damage instead and think its great then you are not doing the math and need to find a balance between stuns and damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    I have to emphasize this a little more i think:
    if you have a hero doing 1.5m damage on every turn but can not use him because you have a hero who stuns and does 200k damage instead and think its great then you are not doing the math and need to find a balance between stuns and damage.
    @Kaisim I don't understand you, sorry.
    Who am I not using?

    Btw your inbox is full .

    So yes, what I am reading is that my balance between stunning and damage might be off.
    I will run the next two with not only Pompey, but also Blood in there.
    Last edited by Wildflower; 06-23-2014 at 05:24 PM.

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    Wildflower:

    What Banish formation do you use?

    And how much damage do you do per round? for 20mins?

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