Lab Max Points?/Non-refresh banish forms

[FlandreScarlet_7896971]

I had two questions that I can't seem to find from searching.

The first is what advice ya'll would have for a non refresh banish. To be able to get the most damage without going to far over a minute per round. Because of work I can't refresh for the fights and the forms i use now seem to do worse than the forms i had before.

X/herja/Cia
X/X/Leader (sub thucy)
X/Aphro/Lance
Is what i use when i can refresh but the numbers are really bad when i'm at work and use auto

Herja/pompey/leader (sub blood)
X/X/X
shayd/XLance
is what i had used before but doesn't put great numbers either from really long fights. I know there's tons of threads on the auto isssue and thats really not what i'm trying to start again. Just looking for some advice on middle ground you could say for a banish that can throw at least some decent numbers out there.
We have the 1.25 as well

The other question is if there is a cap on lab scores or is it just as high as you can get. of course there's a limit on the fact that you'll run out of tiles sooner or later setting aside move count. or can you hit that cap before that.

Many thanks in advance for reading/or answers given

[Yelsha]

You second form is probably as good as it gets, except perhaps move it around like:

Herja Lance Leader (Sub blood)
x x x
Pompey x Shayd

[kaisim_2492829]

there is no cap on lab, i have seen scores from over 1k (sadly not from myself lol). however it would restrict itself by the tile limit and the best possible combo to hit those tiles and score big.

lets find out for the fun of it:
so lets assume you are doing a hard level, get enough destiny +4's to hit every single tile in the lab that is entirely out of 'questions' tiles (highly unlikely but possible in theory lol) and get a double up for the boss on the last tile...

sooo... 59 tiles + 4 flames +boss
starts with 45 moves and you have to count the edges twice since you have to go on the tile and back, so in the perfect game you need to use 64 moves + 4 flames to hit all tiles and then have 6x +4 to get there.
2210 would be your theoretical perfect score

[FlandreScarlet_7896971]

nonononoooooooo... why use pomp over blood on a long run if you dont heal him!

try this:
xxx maria rhize
herja main xxx
xxx xxx adam (or lance)

sub 1: pent
sub 2: khan

(note: sub 2 only if available, replace rhize with flavi when you get to lv2 norm and then replace flavi with pomp when you do the bonus bosses)

Yelsha was responding to my first question of banish though, not lab forms. Though my regular pvp can do lvl 2 norm an hard runs without trouble. ty for the reply though

[kaisim_2492829]

Yelsha was responding to my first question of banish though, not lab forms. Though my regular pvp can do lvl 2 norm an hard runs without trouble. ty for the reply though

I so misread that

[g346007_1906957]

there is no cap on lab, i have seen scores from over 1k (sadly not from myself lol). however it would restrict itself by the tile limit and the best possible combo to hit those tiles and score big.

lets find out for the fun of it:
so lets assume you are doing a hard level, get enough destiny +4's to hit every single tile in the lab that is entirely out of 'questions' tiles (highly unlikely but possible in theory lol) and get a double up for the boss on the last tile...

sooo... 59 tiles + 4 flames +boss
starts with 45 moves and you have to count the edges twice since you have to go on the tile and back, so in the perfect game you need to use 64 moves + 4 flames to hit all tiles and then have 6x +4 to get there.
2210 would be your theoretical perfect score

Theoretically, the best score would mean you get one of those 'double' tiles every other turn (this adds 10 points every two turns to your score). Could switch one of those flames to a double tile for free.

But yeah... it's pointless to go over 800 by so much.

[Herby]

One theoretical score is (45 moves in Hard level, no destiny tiles used):

22 double tiles + 22 question tiles
(22 x 10) + (22 x 80) + 50 = 2030 pts

[mattp169]

Lets get realistic though

the most you normally see of question tiles,guess the number, transformations are 3 a lab. SO that is 9 moves for a total of 360 points. Then lets say you could hit 2 +4 and 2 +3s theres another 20 points. and 10 extra spaces after deducting for the moves required to hit those destinies. Now lets say you get 3 old dreams and can use them all for question marks. Thats another 120. now you have 42 moves left. 1 of which is needed to get to guardian. 50% will be traps so lets say thats 21 for another 420 points another 190 points for regular monsters. then we get a free change and its a double on the last space so thats 110 more points. This is 1220 points. Which is a realistic max score you would get. In theory you can get much higher. But not even in theory your not going to 20 some doubles and 20 some question marks. Since there is probably some algorithm designed to limit the number of question marks, transformations, guess the numbers, etc

[kaisim_2492829]

Theoretically, the best score would mean you get one of those 'double' tiles every other turn (this adds 10 points every two turns to your score). Could switch one of those flames to a double tile for free.

But yeah... it's pointless to go over 800 by so much.

you are right, per tiles couple (x2 + questions vs 8 questions) gives you 10 points more (90 instead of 80)

Lets get realistic though

the most you normally see of question tiles,guess the number, transformations are 3 a lab. SO that is 9 moves for a total of 360 points. Then lets say you could hit 2 +4 and 2 +3s theres another 20 points. and 10 extra spaces after deducting for the moves required to hit those destinies. Now lets say you get 3 old dreams and can use them all for question marks. Thats another 120. now you have 42 moves left. 1 of which is needed to get to guardian. 50% will be traps so lets say thats 21 for another 420 points another 190 points for regular monsters. then we get a free change and its a double on the last space so thats 110 more points. This is 1220 points. Which is a realistic max score you would get. In theory you can get much higher. But not even in theory your not going to 20 some doubles and 20 some question marks. Since there is probably some algorithm designed to limit the number of question marks, transformations, guess the numbers, etc

yes professor matt, thank you for pointing out the difference between theory and reality
we where just having a little fun between nerds and geeks lol