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Thread: An Odd Ultimate Arena Scenario, the Rank 30 Dead Zone

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    An Odd Ultimate Arena Scenario, the Rank 30 Dead Zone

    So there is a toon on a server that is rank 30 in UA, but is realm rank #5. I haven't seen this toon move from its rank in a long time and maybe inactive. But then I realized something. No one can kick this toon out. Rank 29 and up in UA can not see rank #30 in UA and thereby can not move the realm rank of said player, but neither can realm arena ranks 11 and below, so an inactive toon that is rank 30 in UA CAN NOT be kicked out of UA at all.

    The highest realm rank that 11 can see is 6, so someone who is realm rank #5 at the bottom of UA literally can not be moved. An odd predicament. Any thoughts as to how to solve this?

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    whats to solve?
    i dont see any issue here
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    Inactives can get stuck in ultimate arena this way making the spots unavailable for others.

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    We're getting this on our server too. It's a big nuisance, but it's not a game-breaker. It means that the realm with those (rank 1-5 but rank 29-30 ultimates) will have (permanently) less than 10 spaces for their ultimate arena. Theoretically as few as 5 spaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perawind_8762856 View Post
    Inactives can get stuck in ultimate arena this way making the spots unavailable for others.
    how are they making them unavailable? you just beat the 10th in your realm arena and are entering UA... the inactives wont beat you to bust you back out and only actives from your own realm can kick you out of UA... i still dont see the problem unless you are complaining that the "inactives" are fighting back
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    how are they making them unavailable? you just beat the 10th in your realm arena and are entering UA... the inactives wont beat you to bust you back out and only actives from your own realm can kick you out of UA... i still dont see the problem unless you are complaining that the "inactives" are fighting back
    I mentioned this a while back too. You can still fight for ranks 10-6 in arena to get into Ultimate... but 1-5 could be full of inactive players that can't be moved is the problem. I could see this happening a lot for new servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    I mentioned this a while back too. You can still fight for ranks 10-6 in arena to get into Ultimate... but 1-5 could be full of inactive players that can't be moved is the problem. I could see this happening a lot for new servers.
    ok if 1-5 in realm become inactive and active players cant beat them, I can see a small issue, but it is temporary. But as long as you have one active player who can take #1 in realm you can eliminate all inactives from 2-10. If no one in realm can beat an inactive then you just have to wait till someone can

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    ok if 1-5 in realm become inactive and active players cant beat them, I can see a small issue, but it is temporary. But as long as you have one active player who can take #1 in realm you can eliminate all inactives from 2-10. If no one in realm can beat an inactive then you just have to wait till someone can
    If someone is #1 in realm, but # 30 in AU ... even if it's someone with 1k power, you can't get rid of him. (he becomes #30 in AU because someone from a different realm puts him there).

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    What they are saying is that there is a player ranked 30th (last place) in the Ultimate Arena and also happens to be ranked 5th in realm arena. So no one can attack that player in the Ultimate Arena because no one can see him in there due to be 30th. No one can attack him in realm arena because he is ranked 5th there and 11th place can only see up to 6th (Ranks 1-10 can only see the Ultimate arena).

    No one can see him in either arena, therefore he cannot be attacked in the Ultimate Arena and cannot be moved out of the Ultimate Arena. This effectively makes only 29 slots available for players in the Ultimate Arena. It has nothing to do with how strong the inactive player is.

    Hope this clarifies it for those he don't seem to get what this thread is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revan View Post
    What they are saying is that there is a player ranked 30th (last place) in the Ultimate Arena and also happens to be ranked 5th in realm arena. So no one can attack that player in the Ultimate Arena because no one can see him in there due to be 30th. No one can attack him in realm arena because he is ranked 5th there and 11th place can only see up to 6th (Ranks 1-10 can only see the Ultimate arena).

    No one can see him in either arena, therefore he cannot be attacked in the Ultimate Arena and cannot be moved out of the Ultimate Arena. This effectively makes only 29 slots available for players in the Ultimate Arena. It has nothing to do with how strong the inactive player is.

    Hope this clarifies it for those he don't seem to get what this thread is about.
    Ok thanks to revan explaining I get it now. I forgot most servers only have 30 in UA and Im used to having 50 in UA - Ok I get how that could be an issue

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