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[jrrtolley_7332441]

I am keeping my Dragon.

I love my Dragon. Dennis is cool, he breathes Ice.

[jrrtolley_7332441]

And there you go again with the assumptions. You have no better idea if uCool will close Tynon more than anyone else and just because you work on a development team for another company it doesn't give you the right to say such things. You aren't an employee and don't have 'Tynon Team' under your name. So please stop making such remarks it sends out the wrong message.

To be honest I have no idea where Dave is other than he hinted he has a lot to do and he isn't really active on any of the 3 game forums as I can see. At the moment uCool seems to be putting most of their focus at revamping Evony but I do know the 3 games currently live each have their own development team.

I do get the anger, frustration and understand the need for y'all to point this out. It is getting boring I don't disagree. However, uCool have never really been a company to reveal timetables of launches, even new servers and merges are announced a matter of days before they go live. No matter the rights or wrongs of that or whether you agree or not with that policy everyone in Tynon, Evony and CoE all are in the same boat.

There is nothing wrong with assumptions. When nothing happens for months on end then assumptions become fact and its starting to look like fact.
When having a discussion its always good to hear what people think. Whether truth or rumours, the lifeblood of a forum is to allow people to have an opinion without dissing them.

Sometimes its good to bitch a little and express feelings thoughts and ideas no matter how wrong they may be. and sometimes its just plain funny to read what others think especially when they are barking up the wrong tree. we see many instances of this on the forum here and it stops the same boring bits n bobs appearing over and over again.

[Wildflower]

I find it rather logical that people will make assumptions after communication has been lacking for so long. Managing expectations should be part of this business as far as I am concerned. I don't think we are asking for too much here.
Secondly, what is normal in other games seems to differ from game to game.
Communication about what is going on is more regular than this radio silence.
New content is desperately needed even if it is just a small thing like giving us wolf claws.

However, what is even more needed is information and communication.

At this rate the game is becoming unplayable for me.
My bank space/inventory is filled with stuff I can't use, but can't throw out because I will need it at some point. There is absolutely nothing left to do, but Banish and the occasional chat if you are lucky enough to still have a chat going due to the many departures. When chat is going though it is mostly filled with unhappy people who are growing more bored with Tynon every day. I truly hope a lifeline is coming soon.

This dead end is killing the game. Information would help keep hope and spirits up.

[Morgan le Fay]

Everything is wrong with assumptions. I remember back a couple of years ago people were coming to conclusion that Evony was being 'shelved'. Seems they were wrong weren't they.

Assumptions lead to rumours and rumours end up being a false fact. I've already told y'all how uCool operate about launch dates and suchlike, none of us here work for uCool so email Support for more information. If you aren't happy and want to quit, quit but telling everyone the game is dying or about to be closed based on a theory is totally wrong.

[Scorn]

The average timespan for new updates in these types of games is about 6-8 months. It's a bitter pill to swallow for most but it is what it is.

This statement which we are all supposed to bow down to and accept as fact, the way you have put it, is based on numerous assumptions, first and foremost being that this is both true and acceptable. Sure perhaps you are right that, and hell, it may even be possible that it is acceptable by some, for a game to have an update schedule of 6-8 months but only, ONLY!! if the game released in the initial stages can be regarded as a relatively complete product.
If you are wanting to say such a thing then lets get some "facts" as I see them, clearly exposed and on the table.
This game is a year old and to date it's core has yet to be finished, I highly doubt even, that it's ever been clearly established, what the end is, within the walls of ucool's offices. We have never had complete access to quest/heroic/set/level aspects, it's always been a case of getting certain things or to places and not actually being able to use them fully. If you want to release a product then make sure that what you are releasing is finished for what you are releasing it for. If the level cap was supposed to be 100 then make it 100 and don't have items for level 120 visible. If you wanted to release a certain number of sets then release them when they are all complete so there are no questions surrounding further content. Don't show us lvl 110 rewards and not let us get there for 8 months. Don't spam our backpacks with plans we can't use, don't give us access to materials we have no use for, don't give us maps that aren't completed... It's all a guessing game... Nothing is expressly communicated, patch notes are rare or no existent, communication for the last few months has been pathetic. For me this is unacceptable and I think your statement about the time between updates is nonsense especially when considering the state the game has been in since it's inception. What's left, given the above, other than assumptions really?

[kaisim_2492829]

Yep, Cant Craft Sirus Gear because I dont know the arena thing. I log on and stare at the game and ask myself why do i keep logging on todo nothing?
My talents are maxed cept a few i wont care about till thorday. My blacksmith are at 30 hours + so babysitting my acct is really all im doing. I lurk on the forum because morgan thinks my rants are too personal and negative. But what do you expect. When you pay for items in a game and the game stops production and ceases to communicate with its player base. Leads me to beleive the game will be sunset soon (sunset is a term used in the dev community when its put on cruise control and no more updates will be published, Most companies will post the game is being sunset. I dont want new content, I want a date new content will be released. OR Post a sunset date. Thanks. -BGB

And there you go again with the assumptions. You have no better idea if uCool will close Tynon more than anyone else and just because you work on a development team for another company it doesn't give you the right to say such things. You aren't an employee and don't have 'Tynon Team' under your name. So please stop making such remarks it sends out the wrong message.

To be honest I have no idea where Dave is other than he hinted he has a lot to do and he isn't really active on any of the 3 game forums as I can see. At the moment uCool seems to be putting most of their focus at revamping Evony but I do know the 3 games currently live each have their own development team.

I do get the anger, frustration and understand the need for y'all to point this out. It is getting boring I don't disagree. However, uCool have never really been a company to reveal timetables of launches, even new servers and merges are announced a matter of days before they go live. No matter the rights or wrongs of that or whether you agree or not with that policy everyone in Tynon, Evony and CoE all are in the same boat.

well said BGB that is exactly how i feel and i am sure we are not alone that way.

sorry morgan, i have to disagree with you on this one and have to point out that BGB may be too "assuming" in assessing the situation but so are you. because you have no idea either what may or may not be planned for the future. you keep on defending the "new guy" after the "old guy" stepped too much up without knowing what his plans are either. at least the "old guy" cared about this game in some form and showed others his interest by posting comments, giving updates, heads-up and offering help in taking care of tickets for others. you defended the "new guy" and said he needs to read himself into it, etc and thats fine with me. however if i would take on a new job and would take any longer than a week to "read myself into it" then i would step down and find something i actually care about doing.
also i disagree with the "ucool bad at revealing new stuff" because we knew about the royal challenge ahead and even you said once that they always test their stuff on your beloved beta server. so where are those tests now since at some point you also said they are preparing stuff, letting others catch up and dont remember exactly what anymore.
when you tell things like that i intend to believe it because you are a mod and maybe on occasions know more than we do but the more i read about this and you defending ucool, the more it makes me believe that the "Abendrot" is near.

[jrrtolley_7332441]

I absolutely agree with both Wildflower and Scorn. Well thought out comments from both of you.

[Morgan le Fay]

well said BGB that is exactly how i feel and i am sure we are not alone that way.

sorry morgan, i have to disagree with you on this one and have to point out that BGB may be too "assuming" in assessing the situation but so are you. because you have no idea either what may or may not be planned for the future. you keep on defending the "new guy" after the "old guy" stepped too much up without knowing what his plans are either. at least the "old guy" cared about this game in some form and showed others his interest by posting comments, giving updates, heads-up and offering help in taking care of tickets for others. you defended the "new guy" and said he needs to read himself into it, etc and thats fine with me. however if i would take on a new job and would take any longer than a week to "read myself into it" then i would step down and find something i actually care about doing.
also i disagree with the "ucool bad at revealing new stuff" because we knew about the royal challenge ahead and even you said once that they always test their stuff on your beloved beta server. so where are those tests now since at some point you also said they are preparing stuff, letting others catch up and dont remember exactly what anymore.
when you tell things like that i intend to believe it because you are a mod and maybe on occasions know more than we do but the more i read about this and you defending ucool, the more it makes me believe that the "Abendrot" is near.

They did test the Royal Challenge on Beta. It was on there a week before going live. Dawnseeker did create a thread on new heroes and such forth before it went it launched but it was only hints. That is the only time it happened and that was after everyone nagged him. Dave is not Dawn, like it or not he's all we got even though he's not communicated at all.

If you want information then I suggest you email Support, as I said I get why people are upset but everyone is making it a whole lot worse moaning 'the game is dying' or 'it's going to be 'closed'. You don't know that, I don't know that and saying it doesn't make it right or true.

. For me this is unacceptable and I think your statement about the time between updates is nonsense especially when considering the state the game has been in since it's inception. What's left, given the above, other than assumptions really?

It's based on other MMOrpgs I've played. New content is released periodically. Part quoting a comment out of spite doesn't make it right as I did say this;

It's about that. If my average estimate is right we could be looking at another 2-3 months, lets hope it's quicker.

I'm actually on your side, alienating me and twisting my comments won't help you get your new content will it?

[Scorn]

like it or not he's all we got even though he's not communicated at all.

Given that, we don't have anyone really.

[Wildflower]

Honestly, making assumptions is a rather human behavior, we do it all the time.
Communication is difficult without making them.

Whether an update is coming or not coming;
A positive assumption shows optimism, where a negative assumption might show pessimism,both are assumptions unless we are shown some proof of one or the other.Apparently a message from support saying an update is coming is not enough to count as proof for this community, it seems they have lost faith.
They need to hear it from Dave Mata or an employee from Ucool.

In the end communication is the best way to avert assumptions being made; manage expectations.