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    Quote Originally Posted by snowwis88_4614539 View Post
    Not sure if anyone has encountered a player who has maxed out their Queen P on their server, but there is one on ours and he is destroying the game for everyone. This person has dumped everything into their Queen P you can imagine. All level 12 runes, 18 Stars (yes 18!!), Archangel 5, Armor maxed out to his level and fully jeweled (Judgement Set). The total power of this one player is only 86M of which his Queen P is 64M! He has put virtually nothing into the other heroes. So you basically kill off all his heroes on the first round, but it is impossible to kill his Queen P as it keeps healing itself. I have 180M power and I can't even touch him. This seriously needs to be looked at. Not only does he dominate the arena and sailing, but Guild Wars is a joke. Since you can't kill his queen P (And I am talking 5 150M+ power people attacking it at once!) he just marches right thru everyone and God forbid if he has a power bonus. I don't blame the player, as the ability to do this is obviously there, but something needs to be done. I have spent alot of time and money building up all my characters to be strong and able to compete and because of this ability, everyone on my server is either trying to build up their Queen P to exploit it, or just quitting. A Purple hero that is easy to get shouldn't be able to do this in my opinion.
    Think before you complain.

    1. Pompey 1-shots QueenP (or Pompey and Blood 2-shot QueenP)

    2. Flavius + Herja = QueenP that cannot skill each turn.

    3. Put Saffron in front of QueenP and Maria behind Saffron, and watch QueenP's futile attempts to kill off Saffron.

    4. Use Cianna, Thucydides, Shayd and Aphro and watch all the circles around QueenP's head.

    There are several more techniques to kill her off, but I'll leave it to you to figure it out.


    5. For Guild Wars, get his durability to 1 and laugh as a low power player kills him off.


    QueenP isn't overpowered. It's just that your enemy's smarter than you.
    Last edited by Herby; 07-21-2014 at 11:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Think before you complain.

    1. Pompey 1-shots QueenP (or Pompey and Blood 2-shot QueenP)
    Have tried both Pompey, Blood, Lance, you name it with Level 12 vengence with Judgement gear, doesnt matter. His Queen P has such high defense you can't hit it enough
    to kill it before it heals. She has near 200k health and getting a hit in for over 30k even with Pompey is a miracle. She can weather a round or two without using her skill attack
    and then in one hit she is full health again.

    2. Flavius + Herja = QueenP that cannot skill each turn.
    Herja removes 5 morale, Flavius is star based and her Queen is 18 stars, so you can't remove enough of her morale. Calvin works if he can stay alive long
    enough, but even her physical attacks hit like a ton of bricks. Not to mention her Crit rate and yes I have level 12 Reliablity, Nimbleness, and Resistance, doesn't matter.

    3. Put Saffron in front of QueenP and Maria behind Saffron, and watch QueenP's futile attempts to kill off Saffron.
    Using a tank in front (Saffron, Ahmose) doesn't slow her down. She gets 100% drain and you can't damage her enough to make up for it. Also the remaining
    heroes are unable to power her down in time to make this useful.

    4. Use Cianna, Thucydides, Shayd and Aphro and watch all the circles around QueenP's head.
    These do work on occasion, but it is not consistent and it needs to happen at least 2 rounds to have a chance. Her Resilence is at 225. She can
    weather at least one round without a skill attack due to her high defense. You can get her down to 1 health point and the second she has a skill
    attack she is completely full again.

    There are several more techniques to kill her off, but I'll leave it to you to figure it out.


    5. For Guild Wars, get his durability to 1 and laugh as a low power player kills him off.
    Yes that would normally be the plan but he just goes from B-A first round and wipes out 20 people sitting in A, game over. Mind you those 20 people are not low powers.
    He can basically solo on Defense and the rest of their guild goes on Offense in another GW.


    QueenP isn't overpowered. It's just that your enemy's smarter than you.
    He is not smarter then me, he has exploited a bad game design and is taking advantage of it.
    Also all of you suggestions require me to totally change my form that leaves me completely useless against all
    the normal players just to offset this one oddball. I have played this game for a long time Herby, I am not a noob.
    I appreciate your advice, but until you have encountered someone like this I don't think you completely understand.
    I welcome a good opponent but this is just wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowwis88_4614539 View Post
    Have tried both Pompey, Blood, Lance, you name it with Level 12 vengence with Judgement gear, doesnt matter. His Queen P has such high defense you can't hit it enough
    to kill it before it heals. She has near 200k health and getting a hit in for over 30k even with Pompey is a miracle. She can weather a round or two without using her skill attack
    and then in one hit she is full health again.
    If your Pompey is only causing 30k damage on a target, then its too weak. Nothing can change the outcome except improving your gear and stars and saints.


    Quote Originally Posted by snowwis88_4614539 View Post
    Herja removes 5 morale, Flavius is star based and her Queen is 18 stars, so you can't remove enough of her morale. Calvin works if he can stay alive long
    enough, but even her physical attacks hit like a ton of bricks. Not to mention her Crit rate and yes I have level 12 Reliablity, Nimbleness, and Resistance, doesn't matter.
    Flavius and Herja, if Flavius has less than or equal the amount of stars of a target, will make a Judgement Set target lose its skill attack for one turn.
    Level 12 reliability plus one or two +15 resilience saints will make your hero very hard to crit.


    Quote Originally Posted by snowwis88_4614539 View Post
    Using a tank in front (Saffron, Ahmose) doesn't slow her down. She gets 100% drain and you can't damage her enough to make up for it. Also the remaining
    heroes are unable to power her down in time to make this useful.
    Queen Penth drains the amount of damage she inflicts. If you use saffron or ahmose's skill, Penth will only drain 1/2-1/3 her normal damage.


    Quote Originally Posted by snowwis88_4614539 View Post
    These do work on occasion, but it is not consistent and it needs to happen at least 2 rounds to have a chance. Her Resilence is at 225. She can
    weather at least one round without a skill attack due to her high defense. You can get her down to 1 health point and the second she has a skill
    attack she is completely full again.
    What does Resilience have to do with Stun Rate? Resilience affects the defense vs critical hits.
    You need to have Preciseness level 12 on your mages to make them hit and stun well.


    Quote Originally Posted by snowwis88_4614539 View Post
    Yes that would normally be the plan but he just goes from B-A first round and wipes out 20 people sitting in A, game over. Mind you those 20 people are not low powers.
    He can basically solo on Defense and the rest of their guild goes on Offense in another GW.
    Then put 40 people in. Once your enemy kills 33 people, the durability will become 1.


    Quote Originally Posted by snowwis88_4614539 View Post
    He is not smarter then me, he has exploited a bad game design and is taking advantage of it.
    Also all of you suggestions require me to totally change my form that leaves me completely useless against all
    the normal players just to offset this one oddball. I have played this game for a long time Herby, I am not a noob.
    I appreciate your advice, but until you have encountered someone like this I don't think you completely understand.
    I welcome a good opponent but this is just wrong.
    The fact that he thought of his technique and you didn't, shows that he's smart.

    And the fact that we've given you techniques to use, and you just refute all of them, shows that you are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post

    What does Resilience have to do with Stun Rate? Resilience affects the defense vs critical hits.
    You need to have Preciseness level 12 on your mages to make them hit and stun well.
    First off I have to agree that Queen P brings too much power to the table considering how easy she is to get. Why isn't Khan stronger then her,
    especially considering he is a Gold hero and alot harder to get. But what I would like to know is what is quoted above. Herby states that
    Resilience does nothing for stun rate, but according to my cursor, when I hover over Resilience in my character window it clearly states, and
    I quote "Reduces the chance of being Stunned and being critically hit" So is Tynon lying to us or does Herby know something we don't?
    Please clarify if you can. Thanks

    Herc

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_6808913 View Post
    First off I have to agree that Queen P brings too much power to the table considering how easy she is to get. Why isn't Khan stronger then her,
    especially considering he is a Gold hero and alot harder to get. But what I would like to know is what is quoted above. Herby states that
    Resilience does nothing for stun rate, but according to my cursor, when I hover over Resilience in my character window it clearly states, and
    I quote "Reduces the chance of being Stunned and being critically hit" So is Tynon lying to us or does Herby know something we don't?
    Please clarify if you can. Thanks

    Herc
    Good catch. I never noticed this... Always heard resil only counters crits.

    Looks like time for testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    Good catch. I never noticed this... Always heard resil only counters crits.

    Looks like time for testing.
    This info have been added resently.. i am quite sure that in "old" times it said only crits.. Think it was about the time the new mounts came...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomas_8618530 View Post
    This info have been added resently.. i am quite sure that in "old" times it said only crits.. Think it was about the time the new mounts came...
    sorry to disapoint but it always said that in the context or bubble or whatever you call that field
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    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowwis88_4614539 View Post

    He is not smarter then me, he has exploited a bad game design and is taking advantage of it.
    Also all of you suggestions require me to totally change my form that leaves me completely useless against all
    the normal players just to offset this one oddball. I have played this game for a long time Herby, I am not a noob.
    I appreciate your advice, but until you have encountered someone like this I don't think you completely understand.
    I welcome a good opponent but this is just wrong.
    Everyone has given great examples of how to counter, you just don't want to put forth the effort. We've all faced forms that you need to put some thought into, and of course someone will find a form to counter that one sooner or later, if that's your excuse you might as well give up now.

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