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  1. #81

    Cool

    Herja* X Shayd
    X Main X
    Lance X Aphro

  2. #82

    Cool

    Main, sub, sub, shayd, herja, lance, aphro

  3. #83
    HERJ XXXX CIanna

    XXX MAIN XXXX

    LANCE XXX APHRO but which sub is better?? Shayd or Thucy seems to me that I have a lvl 12 Preciness on shayd and it wont hit hardly at all seems weird to me that shayd would do less stunning with better hit rating

  4. #84
    for the lil ones...
    1 LB set...
    herja calvin cianna
    xxx xxx main
    shayd xxx xxx
    sub lance, LB on cianna, calvin under 100 morale

    2 LB sets...
    herja xxx cianna
    xxx lance main
    shayd xxx xxx
    sub calvin - calvin with 100+ morale, LB on cianna and lance

    I've played around with different formations with aphro and one sub...best (well, most consistent) so far is using 4 stunners. I'm experimenting with forms using lance, but so far I've found, although high rounds are higher, that at the end of banish the result varies very little.

  5. #85

    Cool

    Main/Sub/Sub -> Shayd -> Herja -> Aphro -> Lance

    Shayd -> Aphro -> Main/Sub/Sub -> Herja -> Lance

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    It's not your formation that does the damage, its your heroes' 18 stars, tailored saints, and maxxed out equipment.

    There's no one in my server who's at, or remotely near to 1.4b power.
    But I know several players at 300m power who can do ~700m damage in 20mins.
    VIP 5-6, no tailored saints, highest starred hero is 14-15 stars,
    getting 500m+ in 15min w Riot's last shared form w a slight tweak which works better for me w low 400m base power on that form

    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    There are better formations out there, and they exist, but I choose not to share them.
    I don't like posting formations and people will use them without even knowing how they work.
    thats pretty selfish imo idk why u care to criticize others who do share :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Your damage come from Lance, Aphro and your Leader mostly.
    how would ur damage come from ur leader mostly when it dies in first or second round in most cases (talking about Riot's form right?). and again, what damage each hero deals highly depends on other factors as how they r built/dressed etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    I don't think there is a "best form". There are too many factors that can affect this such as hit rating, crit values, mage misses, and the luck factor.

    I just know there are better forms out there, just from analyzing the formations used, based on die order and attack order.
    ur second statement kinda kills the first :P
    what a player's best form is depends on how his/her heros built. players need to experiment to find their own best.
    I value Riot sharing his ideas. would luv to see urs Herby

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    at this point i would like to fill the gap for "newbie" formations:

    no lightbringers spirits or below:
    calvin* cianna** xxx
    xxx main xxx
    xxx DD*** shayd

    *calvin needs a morale rune that is 1-2 hits under 100 to make it work (example level 5 partisan)
    ** cianna needs a 100 morale rune
    ***DD stands here for your main damage dealer, that could be lance, blood, pomp, etc

    with your first sub the above form and put herja on the sub
    For new toon set ups before any substitution ability I have used a variation on this and wanted to ask if you see any difference. There are practical considerations that come into play if on a low gem budget and don't want to spend a lot of time developing extraneous gear (e.g. 4th swords/ or 3rd staffs).

    I gravitate initially toward a 3 morale attacker and 2 magic caster/healers (e.g. 3 swords and 2 staffs) basic core setup for PvP and regular play. I don't want to spend a lot of time on the limited Black Smith Q (only 2-3 deep Q) to develop a 4th sword right away. Again - on a low gem budget. I don't do speed ups except to set up Black Smith to sequence the cool-downs to complete while I sleep. So, I will often substitute another MAGE damage dealer in place of where you have Cianna.

    So my generic formation for world events becomes:
    x x x
    Calvin DDm Main
    x DD Shayd

    *Where DDm is best DamageDealer Mage (not Shayd - e.g. Hypatia or Mehvidan depending on how the natural sainting works out on magic attack bonuses)
    ** DD is always a moral based damage dealer and usually Lance De Luc or BloodStorm

    I have not found Cianna to be reliable enough since the nerfs.
    Any Thoughts about equivalence?
    Last edited by RiverBummer; 09-29-2014 at 10:42 PM.

  8. #88
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    I think Mehvidan is poop, but I don't remember much of my early days. If a mage has the most damage for you, then great, but I would think that there would be at least one character (themistocles?) with more damage even with a lv 0 sword. Another stunner is always best for early toons, so I would keep cianna. I have no numbers to back me up, so if you like your damage with that or disagree with me then woopdydoo.
    my naga, my naga

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by s.myray_2760080 View Post
    getting 500m+ in 15min w Riot's last shared form w a slight tweak which works better for me w low 400m base power on that form
    I've been getting something similar with a similar power. (a bit better, but probably only because I dumped a lot of gems and cards into my lance and nothing else xD)

    Using:
    Herja Thu X
    Main X X
    X Lance Aphro
    Sub: Cianna
    Sub 2: Shayd

    I've been hitting the 30 round limit every now and then and thought changing shayd for another hitter might be better. Didn't bother testing how often though since I don't need coins anymore.

    Hitting the 30 round limit is probably why Riot's banish form might look different from others.

    Quote Originally Posted by s.myray_2760080 View Post
    thats pretty selfish imo idk why u care to criticize others who do share :P
    I would love to hear Herby's forms as well, but value his criticizing too. It's a lot better to spread no information than wrong information. Or maybe he just regrets getting Riot to stop using Khan for banish...

    Quote Originally Posted by s.myray_2760080 View Post
    how would ur damage come from ur leader mostly when it dies in first or second round in most cases (talking about Riot's form right?). and again, what damage each hero deals highly depends on other factors as how they r built/dressed etc.
    Think Herby is wrong on this one. The damage of the physical damage stunner should matter more than the leader.

    Quote Originally Posted by s.myray_2760080 View Post
    ur second statement kinda kills the first :P
    what a player's best form is depends on how his/her heros built. players need to experiment to find their own best.
    I value Riot sharing his ideas. would luv to see urs Herby

    cheers
    Riot plays with different pieces than us. It might be still helpful, but you're right that we need to find out for ourselves.

  10. #90
    What is the best form if you have aphro, but do not have 2nd sub? Someone I talk to was asking about it.

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