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Thread: Sanctification Failure Rate. Are the puiblished Odds REAL or is it bugged?

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    Sanctification Failure Rate. Are the puiblished Odds REAL or is it bugged?

    Just had 4 different hero card sanctification fails in a row (3 purple 1 gold saint cards) at mostly very near or above 80%-90% stated success odds rate using both single cards and multi-card combos.
    Are these published in game odds real or just approx estimates?
    I then go on to clean up my inventory from the blue casino card spam deposits and get 2-3 saint success with chances for success stated at between 20%-40%.

    This had happened before so its looking to me like the odds are not real at all.

    Anyone know how legit those in-game sainct numbers are or if they are bogus or bugged?

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    i find the %s to be low.
    Takes baout 60 cards to saint a gold hero to dom 5 so thast about a 40-45% success rate

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    Failing four times in a row at high success rates, while unlikely, is entirely possible. The random number generator probably did not like you when you tried. I would assume that if you took all attempts at a given success rate across all players and servers that the average success rate would probably be not too far off from what is stated.
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    there is no random number generator used when saints are called at the server level. The stars/Saints are pre-determined when you recruit the hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGB View Post
    there is no random number generator used when saints are called at the server level. The stars/Saints are pre-determined when you recruit the hero.
    this is correct, even tho i am not sure if its predetermined all the way through or just to a certain point and then the dice gets rolled again. however, the successrate of the cards is also predetermined just as the value of the stats. meaning that if the game decided to give you an order of (1 success, 0 fail) 1 0 0 0 0 1 1, then its exactly that regardless what percentage it shows you. the only way to "avoid" the predetermined system is to combine cards, however that is also predetermined and will give you the same value on sanct unless you skip one step by combining.
    a predetermination example would be:

    3 sancts are predetermined in the above example of first 7 cards
    (1=yes, 0=fail)

    1 0 0 0 0 1 1
    +100 sanctA, +100 sanctB, +100 sanctC

    if you would get sanctA on your 100% attempt and then for example fail 4 cards, get mad at the system and then combine 2, it would give you sanctC as your second sanct instead of sanctB.
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    If its pre-rolled as some here say does it even make any difference to combine cards? It is better to do 3 rolls at say 20% odds or 1 roll at 70% or so odds for combined cards. I am thinking that its better to just "go for it" with single cards and not waste them on multi card combos if the odds are not real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetGnat_9337522 View Post
    If its pre-rolled as some here say does it even make any difference to combine cards? It is better to do 3 rolls at say 20% odds or 1 roll at 70% or so odds for combined cards. I am thinking that its better to just "go for it" with single cards and not waste them on multi card combos if the odds are not real.
    sorry, but you need to re-read my previous post again. please feel free to ask any other questions if you still got them
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    There would have been 21 fails in a row for my Rhize at 40% so of course its just a made up number. Statistically its ridiculous and very unlikely that 21 at 40% would fail. Luckily when I used 2 cards per sanc I got 5 out of 10 to work. That's a much better rate. Its always best to check the cards first before doing the sanctifies.

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